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Old 04-05-2007, 06:52 PM   #57
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another little quirk about the superduty trucks is rather interesting, if you plan on any full throttle operation in 4wd low range turn on the windshield wipers first. that way when the coolant blows out of the overflow bottle you can still see where you are going!
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I don't think emulating Mount Vesuvius is what I would call a "quirk"!
I'll see if I can find out what level (series) uses the "press-on wheel".
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Old 04-05-2007, 06:57 PM   #58
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better yet i had a brand new 550 with a bucket on it that i got stuck about 300 yards from the nearest road.

when i was trying to rock it out of the mud it blew the blue rubber coupling from the intercooler to the turbo. it left it so it could not even turn a wheel. we drug it out of the field with an international 4x4 line truck.

i do believe this was a common problem that was resolved by a recall.

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Old 04-05-2007, 06:58 PM   #59
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another little quirk about the superduty trucks is rather interesting, if you plan on any full throttle operation in 4wd low range turn on the windshield wipers first. that way when the coolant blows out of the overflow bottle you can still see where you are going!
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Perhaps they could re-route the coolant overflow to the tail pipe... to put out the fire.
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Old 04-05-2007, 06:58 PM   #60
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I don't think emulating Mount Vesuvius is what I would call a "quirk"!
...or the tailpipes that spit fire...or the Pinto that exploded, the Crown Victoria that killed peace officers, the Navistar spat, the ending of the Taurus only to be brought back....and on and on and on.....

Not that GM doesn't have it's issues too, but they are still above the single digits stock price.......
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Old 04-05-2007, 06:59 PM   #61
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Perhaps they could re-route the coolant overflow to the tail pipe... to put out the fire.


Between just the Crown Vic, Pinto and then this, seems to be a lot of flames in Fords!
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hey all, don't get me wrong. fords are fine trucks. they are economical as far as a fleet purchase goes. i do hear a bit of grumbling from our mechanics who are used to working on mostly internationals. (they have quirks too)

what seems to get us (at the power company) in trouble is trying to use them in ways that a true medium duty truck should be doing.

twink, you might find this interesting. by far and away the best trucks we ever had for off road use were late 1980's 2500 chevy suburbans, 350 4 speed manual 4wd. i actually got one airborne with 8 guys on board! we were trying to get out of a piece of transmission right of way at the end of the day.

i was a second year apprentice at the time, one of the veterans told me to not drive it like i own it!

and i did.

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Old 04-05-2007, 07:29 PM   #63
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Since we are bashing Fords for now, I remember when the PSD came out in 1995 with the E4OD transmissions. After a couple of years' wear, the column shift levers would wear the insulation off the overdrive cancel switch wire, shorting it out. This would cause the trans to go into limp in mode, but worse, the fuse that protected that circuit was also the fuse that protected the drive by wire throttle controller. The truck would start, and idle, but if you hit the accelerator pedal nothing would happen. Not good, especially if it happened at an intersection, or railroad crossing.
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This is the F450
Looks like something "RoboCop" might step out of.
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Bought a 28 ft AS International earlier this year. Quickly realized that my 5.4L Expedition would not suffice even here in Fla. No extra capacity for cargo weight, and, pulling with some camping gear and the fresh water tank full was all the Ford could do.
I am now driving a F 250 6.4L diesel and am please as punch. It runs flawlessly, is quiet and smooth. MPG at about 12 with diesel fuel here 10 cents less than regular gas. Power to spare.
Anyone having reservations about this engine can forget it. Ford and IH have created a real gem.
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Old 05-15-2007, 11:00 AM   #66
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After all the hooplaw I was curious as to what Ford had done. We drove down to the local dealer yesterday and within minutes walked away with a new 2008 Ford F250 Super Duty Crew Cab 4WD Turbodiesel. The interesting thing is that I was going to get a new GMC 2500 but was waiting for the 0% 60 month financing out the end of this month.

My wife was lukewarm about the GMC but once inside the Ford said that she loved it and wanted to get it. Not the best thing to say while the salesman is sitting in the back seat! We took it out for a drive last night and were getting about 18 mpg and the power is phenomenal! Diesel is $3.09 while regular is about 25-30 cents MORE expensive.

I bought this as a TV only to last 10 years but I enjoy driving it as a primary mode of transportation. Much better mileage than my 96 3/4 ton Suburban with the 454. 8-12 mpg and 8-9 while towing.
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good choice altamont!

i went for another long test drive last week in a f-350 psd crew cab long bed srw model.

while the 05 250 was being lubed and rotated.

the new units are much smoother on the highway with the longer rear leaf springs and the beefied frame.

the cabin is tighter and the steering seems improved.

it is amazing how quiet these new piezo electric fuel injection units are...

and the sequential turbos are very smooth...

enjoy that new quiet brut! gotta love 650ft/lbs of torque...

lots of twist but no shout.

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Old 05-15-2007, 10:27 PM   #68
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One little piece of paper.

Hi, well with just one little piece of paper, the 6.4L Diesel will be a much better engine than the 6.0L Diesel was; Not that the 6.0L engine was bad in the first place. Ford now asks it's dealers to read and have the buyers of the new Diesels mark and sign a paper explaining the proper fuels and maintainence intervals along with a statement or statements explaining the consequences of modifying these engines. And that if your [modified / tampered with] engine fails due to the unauthorized modifications you had chosen to do, or have done for you, caused it, you can go haggle it out with Banks or who-ever made or installed these engine killers. Copies of these forms will be kept in your file.
We, at the dealer have seen so many 6.0s killed by after market air filter systems, fuel management chips, 6" exhaust systems with no mufflers, turbos made to double the boost, and god knows what. "Then blame Ford." One 6.4L engine has already been destroyed from hydro-locking from useing biofuel. [I believe it was B99] Creating a customer pay ticket for just under $20,000.00; So hot rodder's beware, a new 6.4L may be on you. $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
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This is exactly why I have ignored the "recommendations" made by a friend who owns an '03 to do as he has done and buy a programmer. It may boost power or fuel economy but I've always questioned at what cost?

I figured that IH's engineers may not have designed the most fuel efficient engine or the most powerful engine they could have with the resources they had in the 6.0L, but I always felt they sacrificed a little of each to produce the most best balance of both they could without sacrificing too much of the engine in the process. I'd rather give up that extra MPG or two or loose a few LBS of excess torque that I don't have need for in order to get a few extra 10,000's of miles out of the engine.
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Nobody asked me to sign any paper as referred to by ROBERTSUNRUS above. I truthfully cannot understand why anybody would want to modify this new motor for more power. At 350 hp and 650 ft/lbs who should need more?

I agree with Minnies Mate that engineers make the best compromise of mileage, power and LONGEVITY that the technology will allow. Why mess with a good thing?
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