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Old 03-24-2007, 07:20 PM   #21
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hello again 'strokers...

anyone wanting better details on the 6.4 powerplant should read this....

dieselmann's editorial

the master mechanic who runs the site is great with info,

and writes clear explanations for the rest of us.

one other note, the new interior no longer has a small storage box on the drivers side...

replaced with a little ash tray; talk about going retro...

since the main box is out of reach, i use the little one everyday....

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Old 03-24-2007, 09:01 PM   #22
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Recall/Stop selling order on new Ford diesel

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March 22, 2007 - Ford Motor Co. on Wednesday told dealers to temporarily stop selling certain 2008 F-series Super Duty diesel pickups after receiving reports of flames shooting out of the vehicle's tailpipe.
Ford said it was recalling 37,400 F-Series Super Duty trucks with 6.4-liter diesel engines. The majority of the pickups - 29,000 - were still on dealer lots, the automaker said. Ford spokesman Dan Jarvis said it received three reports of flames coming from the truck's tailpipe, caused by leaking fuel that ignited in the exhaust system's diesel particulate filter near the tailpipe. Advertisement
"It's really something that we noticed early on and we're moving swiftly to fix the problem," Jarvis said.
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Old 03-24-2007, 09:20 PM   #23
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hi redeagle

that's old news.

no doubt there will be other glitches too...

dealers already have the software update and are doing the reprogramming...

as the first u.s. truck manufacturer to use this particular technology ford is blazing a trail, a blazing trail !

i dropped by the dealer last week and asked if i could have MY truck upgraded...

to the fire breathing afterburner exhaust package!

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Old 03-24-2007, 09:27 PM   #24
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You would want to turn off the flames when towing....wouldn't you?

My dad used to tell me about his '51 Ford with the lake pipes that was set up for flaming...pull the choke and let it get it really rich and then hit the switch to fire the spark plugs at the end of the pipes.

The new '07.5 GM diesels now come with a huge (must be 5 inches diameter) tailpipe that has a straight exit under the bumper. (If I upgrade I won't be able to use my rock-tamers) If one of those babies had flame coming out it would be impressive...
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I don't mean to rain on the parade. Ford had a bunch of problems with their 6.0 diesel and from what i've read the 6.4 is a problem child also. Flames from the tailpipe are just another problem. I would suggest being very careful purchasing one of these trucks. Who knows, in a year or two it may be the best out there.
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Old 03-25-2007, 08:41 AM   #26
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The new '07.5 GM diesels now come with a huge (must be 5 inches diameter) tailpipe that has a straight exit under the bumper. (If I upgrade I won't be able to use my rock-tamers)
You can do what I did with my Ford, and purchase a 45 or 90 degree turn-down, and angle the exhaust to the side. BTW, mine has a 4" exhaust...
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Not that it relates to pickups, but GE has had that issue with the turbos on their locomotives. The turbo leaks fuel oil into the exhaust manifolds, where it pools until it reaches flash point, ignites, and flames erupt from the ehaust pipe. Pretty scary, watching 6' flames pour out of the exhaust.
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I wonder if this is the new GE locomotive that we've all been hearing about that is more enviornmentally friendly!

Looking at the pics, still seems to have a few bugs!
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Looking at the pics, still seems to have a few bugs!
Bugs or not, it's still one hell'uva tow vehicle, though campgrounds are hard to get to.
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Exclamation 2008 Ford F-350 4x4 King Ranch

My 2008 Ford F-350 King Ranch 4 door arrived. It has the new 6.4 diesel, factory Nav, camper package; all options offered except for moon roof and a dvd player. The fit and finish is excellent. Huge improvement!!

The big question is how would it pull my Classic 34 with a slideout. My last truck was a 2004 Ford, F-350 4x4, 6.0 diesel, 4 door; basically the same truck except for the 6.4 diesel. It did a great job but how would the new 6.4 stack up?

After a short trip of approx 200 miles I am very impressed with the 6.4. Downshifting on small terrain changes are a thing of the past. My 2004 6.0 diesel would downshift on small hills and overpasses. The twin turbo and the extra torque really make this 2008 truck a pleasure to tow with. Of course the 6.4 is extremely quiet; add this to no downshifting and towing is effortless. The ride is also much much improved. Dont overlook the 2008 F-350 F-250; go drive one. If you have any feel and appreciation for motor vehicles you will love these.
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2Air, great review. You failed to mention the factory? Are these made in Detroit... Oakville? Just curious.
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Looking at the pics, still seems to have a few bugs!
No, that one is called an Evolution series, or GEVO, available with either A.C. or D.C. to the traction motors. 4400 horsepower, in a V12 configuration. The old ones, like the one in my post above, were V16's. And the one in the photo above is "only" 3900 hp
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2Air, great review. You failed to mention the factory? Are these made in Detroit... Oakville? Just curious.
hi glen and thanks for reading.

the f-250/350/450/550s are built in louisville, kentucky.

i have not toured the factory yet but hope to this season....

this plant is 35+ years and 5 million trucks along the learning curve....

hi bill!

welcome to the forums, and

thanks for sharing the first owners report.

keep us posted on your truck and throw in a picture sometime....

how do you like the integrated brake controller and new style electric mirrors?

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My 2008 Ford F-350 King Ranch 4 door arrived. It has the new 6.4 diesel, factory Nav, camper package; all options offered except for moon roof and a dvd player. The fit and finish is excellent. Huge improvement!!

The big question is how would it pull my Classic 34 with a slideout. My last truck was a 2004 Ford, F-350 4x4, 6.0 diesel, 4 door; basically the same truck except for the 6.4 diesel. It did a great job but how would the new 6.4 stack up?

After a short trip of approx 200 miles I am very impressed with the 6.4. Downshifting on small terrain changes are a thing of the past. My 2004 6.0 diesel would downshift on small hills and overpasses. The twin turbo and the extra torque really make this 2008 truck a pleasure to tow with. Of course the 6.4 is extremely quiet; add this to no downshifting and towing is effortless. The ride is also much much improved. Dont overlook the 2008 F-350 F-250; go drive one. If you have any feel and appreciation for motor vehicles you will love these.
Hi Bill,

Keep us posted as you get to know your new truck, I am especially interested in the MPG of the new cleaner burning 6.4 PSD.

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March 22, 2007 - Ford Motor Co. on Wednesday told dealers to temporarily stop selling certain 2008 F-series Super Duty diesel pickups after receiving reports of flames shooting out of the vehicle's tailpipe.
Ford said it was recalling 37,400 F-Series Super Duty trucks with 6.4-liter diesel engines. The majority of the pickups - 29,000 - were still on dealer lots, the automaker said. Ford spokesman Dan Jarvis said it received three reports of flames coming from the truck's tailpipe, caused by leaking fuel that ignited in the exhaust system's diesel particulate filter near the tailpipe. Advertisement
"It's really something that we noticed early on and we're moving swiftly to fix the problem," Jarvis said.
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Not that it relates to pickups, but GE has had that issue with the turbos on their locomotives. The turbo leaks fuel oil into the exhaust manifolds, where it pools until it reaches flash point, ignites, and flames erupt from the ehaust pipe. Pretty scary, watching 6' flames pour out of the exhaust.
It would appear that Ford decided to proceed with their "Super Chief" Super Duty Concept truck after all. Only they opted to go ahead with the diesel only option rather than wait to develop the hydrogen/fuel cell/diesel electric hybrid engine that was touted in the auto show a couple of years ago!

This weekend I had the same problem with my natural gas grill. I lit it to pre-heat and when I returned to put the meat on, it was all ablaze inside...not just the burner either. I immediately disconnected the gas line and it continued to burn for several minuets. Just a grease fire I guess.
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I really like the mirors and the brake controller. I always hated the brake controlers as they always were in the way of something. I also like the factory switches installed in the dash for aux driving lights and aux back up lights. These small additions do cleanup the cockpit appearance and are functional.
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I dont really have anything so say as of yet regarding MPG. We are still in the initial breakin period varying speed and etc.... My first trip looked 12 ish doing all the things you would not do for fuel efficiency. I do think all the hype by the various Mfgs over fuel mileage is just that; hype. NO matter how you figure it more horsepower and torque equates to more fuel. Simply put it cost money to feed the ponies.
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Fuel mileage I am guessing is going to be similar to the 6.0. When you consider all the factors. The new ULSD takes away 3% of the fuel mileage. Add the increased HP and a slightly heavyer truck.

The issue with a few of the new Fords throwing flames out the exaust in more than interesting. But even more interesting is an article I read in a publication a few days ago and the Ford and IH troubles that all of you are probably familiar with. It looks like Ford has decided to dump IH in 2010. They are on the fast track to develope their own in house Diesel by 2010 model year. They will be useing a small Land Rover developed V-8 diesel for the F-150 next year. They were going to use the V-6 IH but things are not well between Ford and IH. (IH=Navistar). This news is not going to sell a lot of diesels in the next two years. It is not what Ford needed. I don't want to buy one now till 2010 when a NEW diesel again comes out. OR....that bullet proof V-10 Ford makes looks better everyday.

My Son just took delivery of an 08 250 SC 4x4 with the V-10. He traded the same configuration but an 2001 with 245,000 trouble free miles on it. He says the 08 apprears to be a big improvement. His initial response after driving it two weeks and 2200 miles is the 08 is quieter and a lot more solid feeling. HE is impressed with the power too. He also has a 550 crew cab and a 550 flat bed diesel.
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