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Old 09-01-2008, 06:04 PM   #15
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...You finally get to a point, where you say enough is enough...
true d'at.

there is a lot to be gained from carrying less and and enjoying more.

good opportunity 2 see lots of units at that dealer.

but a quick look at their website showing tow rig/customer/trailer combos...

confirms that some/many of the departing combos are marginal, and a few are wacky!

have fun looking, comparing and matching the components.

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Old 09-01-2008, 07:26 PM   #16
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About 28' is as big as you can go without getting into issues IMHO.
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Old 09-02-2008, 11:35 AM   #17
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I would recommend that you look at a Safari 27' FB SE. The name has been changed in 2009 models to Flying Cloud 27' FB SE. They are the same, only the name has changed.

I have a Safari 30' Bunk. Loaded it weighs about 8,000 LBS and can be towed by my wife's 2007 Expedition. We use my 2008 F-250 because that is what we bought to tow it with, but the Expedition would do it.

Like 2air and others have said, the Safari/Flying Cloud line is lighter than the International and especially the Classic Lines. With the Safari/Flying Cloud SE model, you will get contemporary lines in the cabinets (still solid wood with a wood veneer), the same windows with wrap window options as the Classics so the same appearance as the Classic, but you will get the bare aluminum walls of the International. If this appeals to you and the missus, this would be a good option for the Expedition. You can also get this floor plan in the International and Classic trim, but again, it will be heavier and tax your tow limit.

If you are going to Colonial Airstream, I have heard good things about them and talked with their sales folks on one occasion and they were very helpful. They seem to have a very wide selection to choose from, too. One of their folks is a regular here on the forums as well.

It can be daunting if you don't have a good idea of exactly what you want when you go to the dealership, but I'm sure they can help you out.

Good luck and congratulations on your decision to become a 'streamer.
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Old 09-02-2008, 02:15 PM   #18
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Again, I appreciate all the info. I'm a little stuck on the weight thing though. Most of you have said stay 28 ft and below for my TV. My Expedition tow weight is 8750 and the tongue weight 920. Why would a Classic 30 at 7095 pounds and 670 tongue weight be too much? I know I'm gonna add a couple hundred pounds of stuff plus water, so it isnt going to be near the max tow weight. How close to the max tow weight is too close? I guess thats what I'm asking. Again, I'm going to look at everything and focus on floor plans, but I want to know my options. Especially if a salesman tells me not to worry my TV will work just fine...

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Old 09-02-2008, 02:44 PM   #19
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...How close to the max tow weight is too close? I guess thats what I'm asking...
jim

there are only several 100 threads here on this issue so read some.

many folks try to abide by the 80% of rated capacity mantra.

it's a sensible approach.

the published hitch weigh is ONLY an estimate and doesn't include 60-80 lbs of lpgas or options or BASIC cargo.

the 30/31 base weight (~7000) is also WITHOUT options.

the 30/31s have about 10k total weight capacity, MANY folks report these uints packed for camping...

at 8500-9000 lbs and with hitch weights of 900-1000 lbs.

while it's suggested you will be scaling back the cargo,

a stocked fridge, kitchen, personal gear, clothing and basic rv needs and a few tools or toys...

quickly reach 1000 lbs even for the weight thrifty IN a 30 footer. so REALLY how light do you expect 2 travel?

the towing rating for the exci' is WITHOUT passengers or gear INSIDE the suv or options.

the hitch apparatus (not the receiver) will add another 100-250 lbs,

in other words REDUCE the available payload of the suv (for towing) by that amount.

so assume 4-500 lbs of people, 200 lbs of STUFF and a HITCH at 150lbs....

NOW the 'towing capacity has dropped by 850lbs already, lower the MAX to <8,000 lbs.

no doubt one can manage the combo, but if your questions are 'what is reasonable'...

consider 80% and work ALL of the numbers...

here is but one example of this process...

http://www.airforums.com/forums/f238...ath-40318.html

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Old 09-02-2008, 03:30 PM   #20
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Aahhhh.... I get it now. Thanks.
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Old 09-02-2008, 04:34 PM   #21
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Thought you would enjoy this video before making the trip.

YouTube - 2009 Airstream Classic LImited 30' S/O Travel Trailer RV - Crash Course
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If anyone is looking for a used Excursion, this dealer in WI have several for sale. Evs Ford Lorima WI
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