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Old 10-24-2014, 12:59 AM   #1
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2007 XC90 as TV

I needed to get rid of my Ford Expedition because my kids are learning to drive and even I hated trying to park the thing. I bought a 2007 XC90, fully loaded, because of the safety, and the fact that the XC70 I previously owned was a great car combining luxury and safety with no serious maintenance issues. (knock on wood and fingers crossed)

I wasn't really planning this as a TV, but realized with a towing capacity of 5k, I might be able to go with a 16 Sport (GVWR 3500).

But the International Signature 19 at GVWR 4500 is really appealing.

I eventually want to own a 27FB, with an appropriate TV, but this might get us in an AS sooner.

Opinions on the XC90 towing 4500?
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You'll probably get lots of opinions on this as tow vehicles are a hotly debated topic here! Check out Can Am RV's website. You may be surprised at what you can tow with your Volvo...


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Old 10-24-2014, 07:07 AM   #3
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International Signature 19 at GVWR 4500 is really appealing.
GVWR of the trailer is not the place to start your analysis.

Start with Unit Base Weight (UBW). That is basically the empty weight of the trailer. UBW for the International Signature 19 is 3800 pounds.

Well within the specs of your tow vehicle.

The difference between your XC90's 5000lb max trailer weight, and the Airstream's 3800lb empty weight, giving you a 1200lb margin.

Next you estimate how much weight you will put in the trailer. I doubt that will be even close to 1200lbs. In fact, based on its specs, you should not put more than 700lbs in the Signature 19. (GVWR - UBW = 700lbs). Still well within the specs of your tow vehicle, even fully loaded.

Then make sure you get the right weight distribution hitch to avoid putting too much weight on the back of the SUV.

Go for it.

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Old 10-24-2014, 09:53 AM   #4
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Do you think it might be a good idea to check the cargo capacity of the XC90 and see how that compares to the total weight of the passengers, dogs and "stuff" in the vehicle when added to the tongue weight of the trailer? The cargo capacity of most unibody SUVs is surprisingly low.
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I've driven an XC90 with the v8. Nice car, but not burly at all. Very much an on-road SUV like a BMW X5. Short wheelbase, too. With either a 16 or 19, I think you'd be OK if you stayed far from an interstate, even with a good weight distribution hitch. I'd not take it over 55mph.
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You might want to consider a nice vintage trailer, because they are lighter. You can get a bigger trailer that will still come in under your TVs weight capacity.
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Our neighbor here in town towed a 22' SOB with an XC90 for a number of years.

Also there is a forum member who tows a good size vintage Airstream with his Can AM set up Volvo S60 sedan. He seemed to like the way the rock solid Volvo handled his trailer.
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GVWR of the trailer is not the place to start your analysis.

Start with Unit Base Weight (UBW). That is basically the empty weight of the trailer. UBW for the International Signature 19 is 3800 pounds.

Well within the specs of your tow vehicle.

The difference between your XC90's 5000lb max trailer weight, and the Airstream's 3800lb empty weight, giving you a 1200lb margin.

Next you estimate how much weight you will put in the trailer. I doubt that will be even close to 1200lbs. In fact, based on its specs, you should not put more than 700lbs in the Signature 19. (GVWR - UBW = 700lbs). Still well within the specs of your tow vehicle, even fully loaded.

Then make sure you get the right weight distribution hitch to avoid putting too much weight on the back of the SUV.

Go for it.

Thanks for pointing this out. I doubt we'd ever have the TT at full capacity. My wife and I won't be full timing, and we tend to travel light.

I forgot to mention this is the V8 model. I've heard there are transmission issues with the T6, which is why I avoided it.
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You might want to consider a nice vintage trailer, because they are lighter. You can get a bigger trailer that will still come in under your TVs weight capacity.
I thought about this, but I'm not up to the task of renovating one on my own. I do keep looking though. Though some of the renovated ones are almost as much as a new one.

If I had the facilities, I'd love to renovate one. But I'm in the city and have nowhere near me to park one while I work on it.
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I needed to get rid of my Ford Expedition because my kids are learning to drive and even I hated trying to park the thing. I bought a 2007 XC90, fully loaded, because of the safety, and the fact that the XC70 I previously owned was a great car combining luxury and safety with no serious maintenance issues. (knock on wood and fingers crossed)

I wasn't really planning this as a TV, but realized with a towing capacity of 5k, I might be able to go with a 16 Sport (GVWR 3500).

But the International Signature 19 at GVWR 4500 is really appealing.

I eventually want to own a 27FB, with an appropriate TV, but this might get us in an AS sooner.

Opinions on the XC90 towing 4500?
I have a 2008 Volvo XC 90 with V8 and purchased it because I had such a good experience with a 2001 XC 70. Sound familiar!? I have been towing a 2010 International 16 without any issues. Sometimes I use an Equalizer Hitch, and sometimes I don't. It tows very well without the Equalizer. I usually keep my highway speed between 60 and 65, and get an average of 15 mpg. I live in the Colorado Rockies where the effective horse power drops significantly, so I think I'm at the limit of my Volvo's capabilities. The XC 90 isn't mentioned often as a TV, but I think it's a good one!
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I have a 2008 Volvo XC 90 with V8 and purchased it because I had such a good experience with a 2001 XC 70. Sound familiar!? I have been towing a 2010 International 16 without any issues. Sometimes I use an Equalizer Hitch, and sometimes I don't. It tows very well without the Equalizer. I usually keep my highway speed between 60 and 65, and get an average of 15 mpg. I live in the Colorado Rockies where the effective horse power drops significantly, so I think I'm at the limit of my Volvo's capabilities. The XC 90 isn't mentioned often as a TV, but I think it's a good one!
Thanks for the info. Good to hear some real world experience, especially at altitudes.

Do you have the factory hitch? As I understand it the factory towing package includes a transmission cooler. I saw on one message board someone suggesting the factory hitch isn't designed for weight distribution hitches, but I've not found anything to substantiate this.

I wish they still made the International in the 16 length. I like the decor.
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Thanks for the info. Good to hear some real world experience, especially at altitudes.

Do you have the factory hitch? As I understand it the factory towing package includes a transmission cooler. I saw on one message board someone suggesting the factory hitch isn't designed for weight distribution hitches, but I've not found anything to substantiate this.

I wish they still made the International in the 16 length. I like the decor.
I have the factory hitch but it was installed by the dealer. I have a small transmission cooler and when I asked my service advisor about adding a bigger one, he discouraged it. In his opinion, what's there is adequate. I've also heard the hitch isn't designed for weight distribution hitches, but I've read they aren't used in Europe and therefore the Volvo engineers aren't familiar with them. There seems to be a lack of reliable information but lots of opinions on the various sites I've visited.
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Tomy - One more time, with emphasis: research CanAm RV in Ontario to get a different perspective on towing with your Volvo.


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^ some sound advice.

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