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Old 02-28-2013, 08:02 PM   #1
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2005 Nissan X-Terra sitting super low.

Hey everyone.

We've been towing with our 2005 Nissan X-Terra and the '66 Globetrotter that we have has had the back end sitting really, really low recently. This last weekend it ended up almost a full three inches below the concrete block we had been using in conjunction with the hitch jack.

A lot of the weight has been removed in our Airstream, so it doesn't strike me as the trailers fault. We recently had new shocks put into the Nissan, but the problems seems to have gotten worse. I've attached photos of how low it was sitting last weekend.

I took the X into the Nissan dealership and they didn't seem to find anything wrong, but he suggested a possible "helper spring" or possibly air bags, the guy didn't seem to know exactly what to do because I don't think the dealership handles a lot of towing situations.

What would be a reasonable solution to this problem, and does anyone have an idea of what kind of cost I should expect?

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Old 02-28-2013, 08:14 PM   #2
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I would suggest that you consider using a hitch system such as the Andersen Weight Distribution anti-sway system. I found that when I had my Xterra that it was necessary to compensate for the weight added to the back by my trailer by the use of such a system. The Xterra was still a crappy tow vehicle in my opinion and I traded it for a 2012 Ford F150 Ecoboost as soon as I was able.
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Old 02-28-2013, 08:16 PM   #3
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A couple of thoughts spring to mind:

1. A weight distributing hitch (Reese, Anderson etc.) will spring some of your tongue weight forward to the Nissan front axle.

2. As you "lightened" your Airstream did you remove more weight from aft than forward, possibly upsetting the balance over the axle(s)? This would increase your tongue weight even as the trailer's gross weight decreased.

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Old 02-28-2013, 08:33 PM   #5
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I really don't think you have a really good tow rig there. When you look at the under carriage setup, you don't even have an axle stabilizer. Also looks like your springs may be shot and new shocks won't help. Even a used Ford F-150 or Chevy 1500 would be a better situation for you. You could really be in a safety hazard situation if you're not careful.
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Old 02-28-2013, 08:35 PM   #6
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The kitchen situation from the front was removed completely. A new wall was put in there but it's not particularly heavy.

In contrast somewhere close to 100lbs + have been added behind the rear axle, but it's very close to the wheels so the leverage wouldn't be great. I hadn't thought about that though.
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I dont see any sway control either.

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I honestly wasn't under the impression that it would need that level of gear to pull with, so I admit my ignorance on the matter. I had moved across country three times towing very heavy moving trailers without incident but I know this is a bit of a different beast.
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I guess I'd like to know from people just how much of an issue the X Terra could be. I'm very hesitant to replace it because it's completely paid off at this point and the value is somewhere in the 9-10k range.

At the same time when we're towing that trailer we're towing about 30k worth of actual parts/technology/labor, and because it's our business we're towing probably double that in yearly income. There is a lot of risk there.
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From the pix you have given, I agree with other comments; your springs appear to be flat and need replaced or the addition of "helpers" in addition to the new shocks. I can't see the hitch on your x-terra, so can't comment. As for your trailer, you DO need a load leveler type AND anti-sway hitch. This is NOT only for your safety, but others too!
Since this is for your business, I suggest a larger TV, better hitch and anti-sway. This all becomes a liability isssue.
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According to the information I've been able to find on the Xterra boards, it does have a sway bar on the axle. Or at least it should as it was stock on the vehicle and I bought it new. It may not show in that photo though.

I'm still with you on the load leveler and anti sway. Would that be something like this?

http://www.andersenhitches.com/Produ...-brackets.aspx
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According to the information I've been able to find on the Xterra boards, it does have a sway bar on the axle. Or at least it should as it was stock on the vehicle and I bought it new. It may not show in that photo though.

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Actually, it does show in the photo. I took the liberty of drawing around it in red. Like a lot of photos, it helps if you look at them as large as possible. Once I enlarged your original, the sway bar was obvious.
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Do no confuse the sway bar on the vehicle with a anti-sway trailer system, different animal all together.
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Do no confuse the sway bar on the vehicle with a anti-sway trailer system, different animal all together.
I think he has a grasp on the difference. The sway bar question came up in response to a post with a photo of a (very nice) finned differential cover and a sway bar. The poster referred to the sway bar (or perceived lack thereof) as an "axle stabilizer" and went on to say the there was not one on the X-Terra. Along with its other problems.
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