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Old 03-01-2013, 01:01 PM   #15
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I have a 2007 Xterra. Tow rating on mine is 3,500 pounds. I doubt yours is more. I have towed a light trailer without problems other than high fuel consumption.
You have two problems. Your trailer is almost certainly over the vehices tow rating and you need a weight distributing hitch with sway control which puts the load on all four wheels and has sway control to mitigate the problem of the Xterra's short wheelbase. Helper springs or other modifications to the rear end won't solve the problem.
The Nissan Pathfinder is rated to tow 5,000 pounds with the same drivetrain but a longer wheel base so the problem is not lack of power.
Assuming your trailer has less than a 5000 gvw and you have properly functioning trailer brakes, you could get by with your Xterra and a proper hitch, but I would upgrade to a proper tow vehicle as soon as possible.
As your rig sits, it is a danger to you and everyone you share the road with. Your headlights are pointed into oncoming drivers' eyes, your emergency handling is greatly impaired and all you need is a passing Greyhound bus to start your rig swaying.
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Old 03-01-2013, 11:50 PM   #16
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Well I hate to say this but according to the Trailer Life Towing Guide The X Terra Does NOT have Tow Rating over 2000 #. That includes the 2005 & 2007 and all years of the X Terra.

So any model & year of Airstream is way over the X Terra's capabilities.

Check it out for yourself at Trailer Towing Guides | Trailer Life Magazine
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Old 03-02-2013, 01:04 AM   #17
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Well the springs were most Likely over stressed towing without a proper WD hitch and are now showing that over site. If you want to keep the TV for cost, put in new springs and add one leaf, buy a WD hitch. Adding helper springs won't remove the damage done to the springs already done. They all work pretty well, no need to get a loan for a HA or a PP hitch. Many will disagree. The xtrea is likely not the right TV for the job, but if you have been using it all a long without the proper hitch, just do the spring upgrades and the WD hitch, and you should have an improved setup. Some people will say a VW could pull that rig, ( I don't agree ) so your xtrea should do fine without winning any races. Enjoy
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Old 03-02-2013, 01:10 AM   #18
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Wow... you need a semi according to some folks! Just get a WD and anti sway system, and all will be fine. Yes, your springs may have sagged a bit, but I wouldn't sweat it. Enjoy camping!
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I'm not sure where you're finding your numbers. I clicked on the 2005 guide that you linked to, and the Xterra is shown with a 5,500lb towing capacity, with an est 11,500 GCWR. Those are higher than the numbers given out by Nissan.

From the manual:

GVWR: 4x2 = 5200 lbs 4x4 = 5400 lbs
Curb weight is 4100-4400 lbs
Cargo capacity is around 1000 lbs
GCWR = 9658 lbs
Max tow = 5,000 lbs
Max tongue weight = 500 lb
Max frontal area = 60 sq ft

After saying all of that though...

I'm definitely looking into a different tow vehicle, possibly a Titan Pro-4X, since we'd have some decent deductions with it being a business situation. An F150 or a Ram 1500 are also being looked at since the Titan hasn't been updated in a few years.

Either way, I'll also be picking up the Anderson no sway weight distributing hitch.

There's actually a fairly long, heated discussion about towing with the '05 on the rv.net boards. The general consensus seems to be that while the X is strong enough via engine/frame to do it, it needs after market parts, and still remains too short, and too tall. I can't really disagree with that.

So, time to go lease shopping ><
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Opps !!!! I was looking at Toyota for the X Terra, duh, its a Nissan DOOOO !

No wonder I couldn't find it !
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Opps !!!! I was looking at Toyota for the X Terra, duh, its a Nissan DOOOO !

No wonder I couldn't find it !
It must be the elevation. Te he
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Old 03-02-2013, 08:16 AM   #22
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Old 03-02-2013, 12:58 PM   #23
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Nope just a brain fart.
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Regarding the Nisson Titan trucks, if you do get one, make sure you read the manual regarding towing for the first 500 miles(not driving the first 500 miles, but towing a load), as it specifically states that you should vary the speed and not go over 50 mph, plus some additional warnings. My cousin bought one a few years ago and when it was new, I read part of the manual to discover this tow warning. Not sure if the newer ones have the same warning but it wouldn't hurt to do some research before towing.

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Most brand new vehicles suggest some minimal distance to help seat the rings and make sure there is no "infant mortality" issue before putting the engine under full load.
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When driving the down the road over undulating surfaces, as the trailer bobs up, the tongue weight downward force vector decreases from the static tongue weight and when it bobs back down, the downward force vector increases to more than the static tongue weight. Thus the need for some safety factor in the hitch attachment point on the TV and the rear suspension.

I removed all the steel spring suspension parts and put in a Kelderman level ride airbag suspension system. The front airbags have the same load capacity as the stock springs, but the rear air bags have a much higher rating (10,000) than the factory springs (6,010). This increased load capacity did NOT raise the GVW rating on the door, but did increase the safety margin on the rear suspension.

While the front axle was rated 5,500 and the rear axle was rated 6,010 for at total of 11,510 capacity, the GVW on the door is 9,600 pounds.

I mention this because the initial photo of the OPs springs looked like they were "sprung" from overloading. The tow vehicle could in theory carry the total of the weakest links in the suspension (in my case the axle ratings because the tires are each rated 3,195 at 80psi), but the GVW rating on the door is the controlling number.

The scale tickets give me peace of mind that I have not overloaded either the trailer or the TV.
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Most brand new vehicles suggest some minimal distance to help seat the rings and make sure there is no "infant mortality" issue before putting the engine under full load.

Sorry, I failed to mention that this break-in period was for the rear end, not the engine. My bad.

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Sorry, I failed to mention that this break-in period was for the rear end, not the engine. My bad.

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It's true that it's good practice to 'break in' the ring and pinion on a differential before subjecting them to constant heavy loading. However, in this case, one has to wonder if this isn't just an over-reaction by Nissan and Dana from the failed differentials of the early Titans. I think most in the industry agreed when it was all said and done the failures were caused by faulty parts when assembled as new. There was a fair bit of finger pointing and blaming the other guy at the time, but from what I heard, Nissan stepped up and took care of their customers. Behind the scenes, I'd bet money they made Dana eat the costs.
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