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Old 05-13-2004, 04:48 AM   #1
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2004 2500 Suburban w/Q-steer

Its here....
Took delivery of our tow vehicle last week. 2000k on the odo so far. I look forward to each mile, Will hopefully have photos in less that one week.
Like Big Dee said the Quadra-steer makes it turn soo quick that almost every time I stop someone wants me to make a 360^ turn for them. To give you an idea of just how sharp I can make a U turn in side of most fuel pumps. I have already towed my wife's car on a U-haul car tow dolly and I had to get out and check as I made a u-turn because I was afraid the sides of the dolly would rub her car. It did not.

The Burb is still breaking in, so no mpg numbers to report. I love the fact that I can leave the burb in 2 wheel drive and use on demand four wheel drive or 4 high /4 low with the push of a button. (the jeep was always in 4wd) The auto ride feature makes the ride equal (if not better) than my brothers 50K plus sedan

The Onstar directions and phone are hard to describe,, if you have never been in a car that has them. For example we were on our first trip and wanted a specific drive through , we talked to the operator and told her that we wanted a drive through less than one mile off I-81 (she already knew my location, speed and direction of travel when I pushed the button) We decided on a drive through about 10 miles ahead and then she gave us turn by turn directions (I just pushed the record button on Onstar and recorded them for later play back)
Onstar people are great they love to unlock your doors for friends, they actually encourage you to call (its free and they feel that it helps sales)
Lets not forget X-M radio. In less that 1 day I was hooked. I have the inhome receiver and have not listened to a commercial since. We will have a plug in on our trailer for the X-M radio. Way cool.

Now if we could only get that Airstream. Come on November...

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Old 05-13-2004, 06:04 AM   #2
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Great ride. Thats the 6 L engine?
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Old 05-13-2004, 02:04 PM   #3
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Yes,
Chevorlet is very specific when you order Quadrasteer. You are limited to a few colors and only the 6000 vortex, but with 325 hp and 365lb of torque what more could you want. With our 4.10 gears I am rated for 9600 trailer weight. Our 27 is some were around 60% of max, right where I wanted it...
Will have exact weigthts we we take delivery...

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Awesome Abe! Another convert to Quadrasteer. You can imagine how I impressed people by doing figure eights TWO YEARS AGO! People could not believe their eyes! I suspect that in a few years, after GM loses the exclusive deal with Delphi, every truck will have it! GM is now offering it on work type trucks. Also the towing benefits are UNBELIEVABLE! No one can understand til they try it.
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Old 10-14-2004, 09:38 AM   #5
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Had some tech problems with the 04 burb. GM took care of me and just switched me into a 2005 burb. I opted for the 3.73 gears this time. I will keep you all posted.

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Abe,

Curious what problems you had with the '04. We are dickering on an '04 demo but may hold out for an '05.
You ok losing the 4.10s?
Did you ever develop any MPG numbers?
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Abe, I too am interested in hearing what issues your '04 had as we too have an '04. PM me if you'd like to keep it offline.

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Old 10-14-2004, 09:32 PM   #8
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Abe, I too am interested in hearing what issues your '04 had as we too have an '04. PM me if you'd like to keep it offline.

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Eric,
My problem was tech related with the Q-steer. Only less that 400 04 burbs were made. My problem was with the 4 wheel steering. I had a warning light that would tell me to "service 4 wheel steering" It appears to have been a computer problem that GM is adressing. GM did replace my 04 w/a 05 after the local dealer tried to fix the problem 4 times.
I was the first person in Virginia to have the q-steer burb and very little was known about the q-steer.
Since April much has been learned about the system and I think a fix is very near. As far as driving, the light is no real problem, you just have to restart the car and press the 4 wheel steer button.
I had a choice for a refund or the same car and I picked the 05. I love the quadra steer and am sure that GM will continue to work on this very minor problem...

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Abe,

Curious what problems you had with the '04.Tech related. only with Quadra steer. A warning light that made you re-start the burb. We are dickering on an '04 demo but may hold out for an '05. The 0% fin for 60 mo is a sweet deal. Go ahead and order it just like you want it. We love the camper mirrors and the 2nd row captains!!!
You ok losing the 4.10s? yes. the 4.10 was rated for 9300# the 3.73 for 7300# Our 1976 Overlander is well under the 7300#
Did you ever develop any MPG numbers?
The 6.0 Vortex with the 4.10 was a thirsty guy. Some where in the mid teens. I loved the 37.5 gal tank I had a 500 mile plus range solo. So I would say mid teens for the mpg. Will let you know how the 05 does with the 3.73 after it breaks in.

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Just went to the Suburban Website. Guess which trailer they use in their photo?

Of course, one picture is reversed for some reason, either that or Airstream builds a trailer with a roadside door.

http://www.chevrolet.com/suburban/photogallery/
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Old 10-19-2004, 04:12 PM   #11
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Well, you said test quadrasteer and you'll buy it. That's us yesterday! Wow, is it the way to go with a large vehicle. I can't wait to tow with it.

I told the salesman that I was going to try an "impossible" u-turn, between a pole and a container. No problem; it whipped right through.

We're going to order it on our '05 Yukon. My wife really enjoyed the way it handled too. Thanks all for encouraging us!
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Good Choice! Welcome to the QS club. You....will....not....be.....sorry!

You are right about those u-turns. And just wait till you tow with it.

Post some pics when you get it.
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Old 07-01-2005, 01:20 PM   #13
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Unhappy It's Revival Time!

Okay guys...is everybody still happy with your Quadrasteers? I am in the market for a replacement vehicle and just found an '04 Yukon XL 2500 low miles loaded for a price I can live with....I am planning on towing my 75 31' Sovereign with it...Suggestions?....Complaints?

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Old 07-01-2005, 06:29 PM   #14
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And this ... http://townhall-talk.edmunds.com/Web...zaG.1@.ef13949
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Thanks Norm,
I knew about the 6.0 piston slap issue...we have several 6.0 trucks at work and they said diesels are noisey early in the morning when everybody is first cranking up it sounds like a truck stop around there

I was just wanting updates from the guys towing Airstreams in particular with the Quadrasteer. We have been looking for a better choice in tow vehicles than our current F150 and this may just be it.

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I love my '04 Chevy Duramax - but I wish I had the quadrasteer. I feel like I need a soccer field to turn around in without it. But I love it anyway - great truck, awesome power and, so far, durability and economy.

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I love my '04 Chevy Duramax - but I wish I had the quadrasteer. I feel like I need a soccer field to turn around in without it. But I love it anyway - great truck, awesome power and, so far, durability and economy.

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Test drove one of those too...gotta love the power and with the current incentives...I can get a crewcab 2500HD SLTw/Duramax for about $35k not a bad deal at all!

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We just got back from a 3-week trip up to the Northeast, Fundy, back thru Quebec and Lake George. Never had any truck worries, pulled like a champ. Averaged about 13 mpg. I couldn't be more pleased. I think it is quieter than the Cummins or Ford, also.

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Happy?? Oh yeah!

We couldn't be happier with our Yukon. We've only got 7,500 miles on it, and about 1/2 of that towing, but it is an awesome tow rig. The Quadrasteer is really unique and well worth it. Order it now, as I've heard unofficially that GM is dropping it in the '06 model year. We'll either have something very sought after in 5 years or not.

The thing I like the most is the way the SUV drives in tight spaces. You forget how big it is, and just pull in, out or around. My wife never gets out of it without saying, "I love this car."

With the 4.10 gears our Yukon is getting minimum 11.5 towing, a little better without air and on the level. Solo as high as 16+.

We've had the phantom "Service 4-wheel steering" announcement too, and the dealer was unable to diagnose. It just goes away when you restart the car. The dealer suggested if it happens again, to swing by a GM dealer without turning off the engine and they might be able to pull a code. I'm not concerned about it.

I had one close call making a u-turn in a driveway. When I backed out into the street, I cut it too tight, and nearly hit my grand daughter's car parked next to the driveway. It REALLY turns tight! We do kick it into 2 wheel sometimes when backing up to our trailer so it doesn't over steer.

Long reply, bottom line....I LOVE Quadrasteer!
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