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Old 10-10-2018, 02:22 PM   #85
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My favorite use is on wet grass, snow, or soft sand at the bottom of the slope out of the campground toward the paved street...

Then it's 4WD low range, and the rear differential lock set while the TV and AS slowly climb out without digging in...just above idle...and in as straight a line as possible.

At that point, the 4WD system becomes 'priceless' unless someone friendly is along with a big winch and a very long cable...
I will never go without 4 wheel drive. I live in the mountainous rain forest part of the country (SW Virginia) where we have mud, ice and snow and steep terrain....and sooo much rain. I need 4x4 just to get up our driveway when pulling the Airstream when the driveway is a little wet, and don’t get me started on the massive mudslide 2 weeks ago that dumped backhoe buckets full of mud on our parking lot. Everyone also just assumes you have it. “We’re camping down that big hill in the field down by the creek. The field’ s a little soggy, but you have 4-wheel drive on that thing, right?” Every place involves going up and down hills and mountains around here. Some campground entrances require you to ford a stream. Some are up a long, long, steep, narrow “gravel” (well, maybe just a little gravel still counts as gravel) road, and don’t you dare slip off if you don’t have 4x4. So, no way we would go without. The stress of just wondering if we are about to get stuck would probably kill us.
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Old 10-10-2018, 03:08 PM   #86
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Old 10-10-2018, 03:46 PM   #87
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We often shift into 4-wheel drive in campgrounds while parking our Airstream. The grounds are often soft and the tires just slip in the dirt and grass until we switch from 2 to 4-wheel.
This. We’ve also towed our AS on some very winding, steep roads. Engaging the low-4 keeps us going, avoided over-heating brakes.
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Old 10-10-2018, 04:28 PM   #88
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Here’s Why 4WD is Better

This YouTube video shows the limitations of 2WD TVs:
https://youtu.be/1biZz7lhZcE

Or you can keep a tow strap/chain or portable winch in your TV.

Another big advantage of 4WD or AWD is that when all wheels are coupled, you gain a significant amount of control. Not just pulling but braking as well. Vehicles with “trailer aware” 4WD/AWD systems are best since these systems use different stability control parameters when towing trailers. For example, such systems can provide significant control when you hit “black ice” (frozen pavement) or hydroplaning and may keep you out of the ditch.

Although current 4WD/AWD systems are quite “smart” (computer controlled), some training on the use of these systems can also be also helpful. A good dealer can provide such trailing. If you are new to towing RVs, you might want to check this out:
https://rvonlinetraining.com/p/rv-10...-towing-basics

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Old 10-10-2018, 05:12 PM   #89
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4x4 = resale value
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Old 10-10-2018, 06:38 PM   #90
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This Beetle talk is making me chuckle, as I remember living halfway up Grouse Mountain, in North Vancouver in the early 70's, (imagine the steep stepped streets of San Fransico covered in wet snow); my Dad's 72 Super Beetle was the only vehicle that would make it up......he would even give rides to the neighbours.

Not a lot of 4wd's back then. Infact, in our sub division, I don't recall anyone owning a truck at all.

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I travelled a large hill (Gilmore Dome) in Alaska to and from work. My F250 would get stuck on big snow days...with or without a trailer. I used to chain it up...and hated it. In 1982 we bought our first 4wd...and never looked back. It is a very cheap Blood Pressure regulator.

I also had a 66 VW with Sunroof. No towing with it...but it NEVER got stuck ANYWHERE! Sure wish I still had it...
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Old 10-11-2018, 06:45 AM   #91
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My dad never owned a 4wd that I can remember but he’d tell me the difference between 2wd and 4wd was about 50 feet. The last time he told me this was when I bought my first 4wd vehicle, an 85 Bronco. My question back to him was “what if the mud hole is only 40 feet long?”

Only you can answer your question as everyone has their own opinions and only you know your specific needs. I prefer a 4wd but a 2wd would do the trick in most circumstances and there’s usually a work around for any kind of problem. In pretty much any poor traction situation a properly equipped 4wd will do the job of pushing or pulling better. As for stopping or any other maneuver where the throttle is not applied, 4wd is no help at all. I work on the roads and am a firemen, have found that most single vehicle accidents in the snow are 4wdrivers having the extra go power but losing control when they lift their foot off the gas. Their next natural reaction is to stay off the skinny pedal or hit the brakes, either one usually results in a less than intended outcome.
If anyone is asking this question just to get the Mrs approval then absolutely, 4wd is the ONLY way to go..much, much safer than 2wd vehicles because they’re made out of a special alloy and are 10 times safer for families
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Old 10-11-2018, 08:13 AM   #92
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A 2wd truck in my neck of the woods would be a special order at the dealership. No self respecting RedNeck would be caught dead in a 2wd, and any dealer with one of there lot would probably be out of business in 6 months.
We are all trying to figure out how to afford one of these.
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Old 10-11-2018, 09:26 AM   #93
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I got stuck once in wet muddy grass like a bog when hitched up. Couldn't move back or forward. After trying all the usual remedies, rocks under tires etc, I called a tow truck.
You don't need 4WD often. But when you need it you really need it. My next truck will be 4WD.
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Old 10-11-2018, 09:30 AM   #94
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A 2wd truck in my neck of the woods would be a special order at the dealership. No self respecting RedNeck would be caught dead in a 2wd, and any dealer with one of there lot would probably be out of business in 6 months.
We are all trying to figure out how to afford one of these.
But does it have a locker? 5 lockers?

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You Imperialistic Americanski's know nothing about 4wd........this will beat any mud truck through any mud hole....and it's RUSSIAN!

https://sherpatv.com

Go to 7:42 to see this Russian wonder go through a mud hole that no other truck made it through.



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This is how it's done down under. An Airstream may need more than a lift to survive.
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Old 10-11-2018, 04:29 PM   #97
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4 x4 vs 2 x4

More than a few times rally parking is on grass.

As anyone who has ever been to the Sugar Creek OH Rally can tell you, after a rain 2 wheel drive doesn't get it done.

Even though I have 4 x 4, I've been towed out by a tractor 2 out of 3 times. In spite of the mud, it's a great rally, wouldn't have been 3 times if it wasn't.
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Old 10-11-2018, 04:44 PM   #98
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You Imperialistic Americanski's know nothing about 4wd........this will beat any mud truck through any mud hole....and it's RUSSIAN!

Go to 7:42 to see this Russian wonder go through a mud hole that no other truck made it through.

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Wow, that's a real 'Sippi hole for sure.
Funny how mucho diesels trucks can't make it thru.
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