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Old 01-25-2011, 09:45 AM   #15
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You could try craigslist for a mechanic to do it in his spare time...
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Old 01-25-2011, 10:23 AM   #16
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the carrier bearings in those transfer cases are MASSIVE, and hard to brake. Since you cought the fluild lose quickly, you shouldnthave any problems
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Driv it locallly for a while till you feel it's safe to take out on the road again. Put the $4000 in a sock somewhere in the AS. Then once a month add $200 to the sock. If you're ever on the road when it goes, you'll have repair cash handy. If it lasts another 5 years, you'll have a nice down payment on a new vehicle. Or maybe take that extended vacation across the country that you always wanted.

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Old 01-25-2011, 08:32 PM   #18
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Did he run the numbers on which he should keep?

Which one did he keep?

If you like it, I don't necessary have a problem with fixing the running gear. You did mention body rust, though. That may make a difference. If you don't have a body, you don't have a vehicle.

I agree with this. $4k only seems a lot compared to buying a new loaded wagon for that price (1966). In these days of $40k vehicles -- and given that you know the use, plus have a projected lifespan -- no, the mileage is not too high. A new timing chain and water pump, some interior doodads to make it nicer, that sort of thing is just a good excuse to renovate.

Were it me I'd lose the 4WD componentry. A swap to 2WD just can't be too bad. Ought to be less than the price projected.

Body integrity (and wiring harness problems) are a different matter, IMO.
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Had the seal replaced in the transfer case and still have a noise. Now I need to figure out whether it is worth the money for a re-manned transfer case or an unknown one from the wrecking yard. It looks like I would only save about $800 to get one (installed) from the wrecking yard. But then I worry about how long it sat in the yard, how many times it has been thrown off a truck into a pile, was it damaged in whatever accident that brought it to a wrecking yard. I also wonder about the quality of a re-manned transfer case. They seem to all have a one year/12,000 warranty. Anyone have a bad experience with a re-manned transfer case or transmission?
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Had the seal replaced in the transfer case and still have a noise. Now I need to figure out whether it is worth the money for a re-manned transfer case or an unknown one from the wrecking yard. It looks like I would only save about $800 to get one (installed) from the wrecking yard. But then I worry about how long it sat in the yard, how many times it has been thrown off a truck into a pile, was it damaged in whatever accident that brought it to a wrecking yard. I also wonder about the quality of a re-manned transfer case. They seem to all have a one year/12,000 warranty. Anyone have a bad experience with a re-manned transfer case or transmission?
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Yes...I don't use it often but I do need it.
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Hi, get a transfer case from California or someplace like it; Most transfer cases are hardly ever used. I found out at the Ford dealer, that I worked at, most people don't even know how to use them.
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Be advised that "Bob" is giving you intel on southern california. then again one would also expect a lack of operating knowledge from ford folk, so cal just compounds that unawareness. lol
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Hi, get a transfer case from California or someplace like it; Most transfer cases are hardly ever used. I found out at the Ford dealer, that I worked at, most people don't even know how to use them.
That's a good idea, with respect to California, Florida, etc., because here in Maine, and many other Northern states, the transfer case wears out right along with the tranny! I live in town - but in the past month or so I've been shifting into 4wd the minute I leave my driveway.
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Drive it It prob be fine! I had same problem on one of our shop trucks and it has made it another 200k since the issue! With over 300k on it know... They are tougher then you may think... (It is a Chevy they never die just get a lil older and lil meaner) LOL

The transfer case new at advance auto is $1300.00 Junk yard is around $800.00 Labor should be less then $500.00.... Well worth keepn even it you need one...
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Need some other people's thoughts on a subject. We have a 1999 3/4 ton Suburban with a 454 engine that is used mainly for towing the A/S.
I have the exact seem model Suburban and keep it around for much the same reason. Currently, mine has 199,000 miles and I intend to keep it in service and make repairs as necessary as the later models with the 8.1 Liter VORTEC V8 have earned a less than stellar reputation for reliability. The weak point with the 1999 is the transfer case and related controls.

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We just lost the rear seal to our transfer case last weekend and lost all the fluid and it was making noise. I replaced the seal and it is running fine (no noise from case) but I know the transfer case is compromised and won't trust it towing the A/S.
What you are describing is exactly what happened to me almost two years ago, but mine also has the complicating factor of its 15,000 mile problem of a blown electronic control board for the automatic transfer case controls. My dealer's mechanic who has maintained the truck since it was new recommended that I not even drive the truck until I can either rebuild or replace the transfer case.

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A rebuilt case, installed, is $2100. Used cases are hard to find at a wrecking yard (I found one for $900 + labor for the install. I am better off with remanned case). From what I have found out from wrecking yards is the Cash For Clunkers program resulted in older vehicles being crushed and thus they were not parted out, causing a shortage of this kind of part.
Based upon my research, I have concluded that there is far too much risk in having a salvaged transfer case installed since they seem to have about a 200,000 mile life expectancy from what my mechanic and other mechanis in my area are telling me. My mechanic has also steered me away from several rebuilds due to known reliability issues with products from those particular rebuilders. The cheapest rebuild that my mechanic has been willing to recommend to me was priced at just short of $3,000.

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So here is the question. How much is too much to put into a vehicle for repairs? This one has 120,000 miles on it and has been a great tow vehicle, other than fuel mileage. Between the transfer case, the need for new tires, and some door rust work, I am looking at investing $4000 dollars in a 1999 vehicle. I doubt it is worth $4000 on the market (pre-trashed transfer case). However, I know the history of this vehicle since I have had essentially since it was new.
When I purchased my Suburban, I knew that it was going to be a long-term member of my vehcle family since I special ordered it with every option that I wanted. It was Ziebarted when new so has no rust and the interior still looks like new. I determined that I would rather spend money on a known quantity as to buy an equivalent new Suburban with a list price in excess of $50,000.

I have been postponing the needed transfer case and control work as my plan is to get rid of the notoriously unreliable four-wheel drive equipment and return mine to the more reliable two-wheel drive. My mechanic advises me that it may require purchasing a salvage 2500 series pickup from which to scavenge parts, but the overall cost of the conversion should be less than $4,000. In the 13 years that I have owned the Suburban the four-wheel-drive has only been operational once when I would have liked to use it -- otherwise it has been inoperable due to problems with the electronic controls for the transfer case.

My perception is that if I have my mechanic make the conversion to two-wheel drive, I will be able to make my Suburban last as long as I am able to drive. I am accustomed to driving vehicles over 30 years of age so the age of the vehicle is inconsequential to me. I know my approach to the solution is unconventional, but I have already expended more than $3,000 in non-waranteed replacements of the electronic transfer case control modules.

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Kevin,
Great info, thanks. I have decided to keep this truck for the long run. You have confirmed what I have been thinking. I have had zero problems with my 4 wheel drive up till now and I use it quite often. I have decided that a used case is risky and I am not happy with a remanned case. I don't know who rebuilt it and what they did. I am concerned about a cheap remanned that will last 20,000 miles and break again. So now I need to find a trusted shop to rebuild what I have. I live near Columbus, Ohio and am confident there is a good shop in Columbus, but need to do some research to find it.
Thanks for your response...much appreciated
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