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Old 09-13-2009, 07:16 PM   #1
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1991 Jeep Grand Wagoneer as TV

Hi - I'm thinking of buying a reconditioned 1991 Jeep Grand Wagoneer and wanted advice on whether or not I can use this as a TV for my 2009 25' FB International. I can't find definitive info on the internet as to the allowable tow weight. I saw one listing that said 5,000 pounds (which would make it too small for an 25' International) and have seen other posts/photos of Grand Wagoneers towing longer/heavier trailers. The engine is a 5.9 Liter, V-8 (360 CID) with a 2-barrel carburetor and automatic transmission (4X4). It has the Class IV Hitch/Towing Package/Transmission Cooler. Any advice/input appreciated

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Old 09-13-2009, 07:23 PM   #2
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I have driven plenty of these in the past, it was a pretty primative vehicle when it was new. The ride is poor handling is bad and performance is dismal and the fuel economy is worse. There are much better vehicles out there to tow with.

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Old 09-13-2009, 07:41 PM   #3
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1991 Jeep Grand Wagoneer as TV

While I dearly loved my 1984 Jeep Grand Wagoneer with AMC 360 cubic inch V8/4BBL carburetor, select-trac 4-wheel drive, and torqueflyte 727 transmission. It towed my 6,000 pound Overlander wonderfully -- but was at its maximum tow weight with the 4.11 differentials. One of the biggest reasons that I sold the vehicle was its abysmal fuel economy -- towing the Overlander was 6 to 9 MPG -- solo was never better than 10 MPG. With the meager 18 gallons that its fuel tank held it seemed like it was a near constant search for a fuel station. The plusses that I noted with my Grand Wagoneer included:
  • Absolutely trouble-free four-wheel drive system.
  • Memorable styling that you either liked (I did) or you dismissed the vehicle as a throw-back to the 1960s.
  • The cabin was open and airy - - much moreso than my '99 GMC Suburban (the Wagoneer's replacement).
  • The TorqueFlyte transmission was a transmission that inspired my confidence - - after proper band adjustment, it did its job with no complaints.
  • Its air conditioner was absolutely magnificent as was its heater - - both did their jobs with minimal intervention.
  • The four-wheel drive was so dependable, that I foolishly thought I could expect similar durability from GM -- was I ever in for a disappointment!
The shortcomings that I noted with my Grand Wagoneer included:
  • Abysmal fuel economy. It is the only vehicle that I have ever owned in which I ran out of fuel repeatedly due to its extremely abbreviated driving range on a tank of fuel.
  • Despite factory Ziebart Rust Proofing, I was having rather significant rust in both rear quarter panels at 10 years of age.
  • Power door locks functioned erratically and three different dealers couldn't locate the root of the problem.
  • Motor that operated the rear tailgate window seemed unusually prone to failure.
Good luck with your investigation!

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Old 09-14-2009, 07:13 AM   #5
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Thanks for the fast and thoughtful responses. Based on feedback, I've decided that I'd rather avoid and invite problems and will still with my new pickup TV.
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All what OL64 said....

Our GW was just barely able to handle our 63 did get us started on this adventure, that was it's biggest contribution.
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My 1988 Grand Wagoneer pulled my 1971 31' Excella with not problems. She lasted for 247,000 miles, The wagoneer that is

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