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Old 09-05-2009, 06:12 PM   #71
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I and my wife love wagons

She,s been looking for a 1956 nomad for a couple of years. We are going to B&J in Vegas in oct. hope to find one to pull my 62 Bambi.
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Old 09-05-2009, 06:29 PM   #72
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Rod,

You want to look at the axle ratio. And that ride (429 with C-6) will tow your trailer. If the axle ratio is smaller than 3.00:1 you may need to make an axle gear set change. If you supply the code on the driver's door I will give you the axle ratio.

Suggestions;
Start with new fluids for everything except the rear axle. (flush out everything)
Make sure the cooling system is perfect
Add a transmission cooler
Replace shocks with the most HD you can get
The rear springs for that year were coil and a little weak. They may need some help.
Generally everything has to be in top condition

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Old 09-05-2009, 08:58 PM   #73
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Rod,

Sounds like a good find. These are really nice wagons, you should enjoy it. Will we be seeing it at Lynden TCT next weekend?

My buddies dad used a 1969 Ford LTD to pull a 30 foot Airstream for several years and never a problem. As noted by others, trans cooler is good - if it is an older one consider putting a new one on as they tend to flow and disapate heat better than the earlier ones, and you may want to consider flushing the systems and replace with new fluids (antifreeze and also trans). It should be a 9" rear end so gear change is pretty straight forward if you don't have a good towing set. Lee may have a spare set of 3:50's so let me know and I can check with him if that is a ratio that would work for you. You had the Blazer so you know all the stuff, but one thing that seems to get forgotten is rear tires. You want to make sure they are good and the right load range. If they are elcheapo tires I'd encourage you to grenade them.

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Old 09-06-2009, 11:24 PM   #74
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Hey Barry,

Yep, I'm picking her up later this week. That means the 1978 Ford F350 is for sale. I'll check out the gear ratio when I pick it up. I'm going to change all the fluids, get new rear tires, and possibly air shocks (airbags) so I don't bottom out. I am putting the Hensley Arrow on the Sovereign later this month. That should help I hope. I'l post pics, when I get it.

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P.S. It has Collector Plates on it already, so cheap insurance!
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Old 09-07-2009, 08:02 PM   #75
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Wow, nice car. My dad's was green where yours is white but otherwise it's like old home week. He towed a very heavy SOB 19' single axle around with that car and other than a weight distribution hitch and careful packing he never had a problem. Look forward to seeing it in person at one of the events. Ah, yes, collector plates, a huge savings in insurance costs.

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Old 09-11-2009, 09:14 PM   #76
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When the Chrysler Corperation introduced the 413 in 1959 it had 470 pounds of torque at 2800 RPM's. In 1966 when the 440 showed up it had
480 at the same RPM's. The 429 cubed Caddy's had 480 when the engine
was at 3000 RPM's. It was not until after the 454 that a Chevy had more
torque than MoPar. At FoMoCo the 1968 429 had as much torque as the 1966 MoPar. For Linclon it took a 462 after 1966 to equal MoPar's Torque.

Motorcade Magazine used a 1965 4 dr Dodge Polara with a single exhaust 2 bbl 383 to pull a like year OverLander at 92 + MPH in a "Road Test" with the standard ratio ( non optional ) rear axle ( what a way to go camping ).

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Old 09-11-2009, 10:57 PM   #77
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This was going to be the Sovereign's tow vehicle, a 1972 Chevrolet C-10 Highlander Suburban, with the 402cid/TH400. Fully loaded with front and rear A/C, auxilliary heater under the 2nd bench seat and Avocado Highlander cloth...sadly, I had to sell her a few months before we bought the Sovereign, so I could pay some of Sherri's health care bills that Tricare wouldn't cover.
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Old 09-13-2009, 11:50 AM   #78
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Hey Barry,

Yep, I'm picking her up later this week. That means the 1978 Ford F350 is for sale. I'll check out the gear ratio when I pick it up. I'm going to change all the fluids, get new rear tires, and possibly air shocks (airbags) so I don't bottom out. I am putting the Hensley Arrow on the Sovereign later this month. That should help I hope.
Gears should be, ideally, at 3.21/3.23 with no OD transmission. Those were GM and MOPAR towing gear ratios.

No airbags or airshocks. Stick with MOOG "Cargo Coils". Personally, I'd start by replacing ALL body-to-frame bushings and then start on steering and other suspension components. All new hoses, fasteners, filters, fluids. Completely new brake system (every single component). Rear anti-roll bar and increased size front bar (ADDCO). BILSTEIN shock absorbers Bilstein - KYB - Rancho - Monroe - Edelbrock Automotive Truck Shocks and Struts - Shockwarehouse.com

See if LEE POWER STEERING can provide you with a re-man power steering gearbox. Don't skimp here . . be really nice if you can go with a variable ratio box. Pay for the best on this item. Parts store boxes are UNACCEPTABLE.

I owned a '66 Ford wagon, every option. Soft suspension, mushy steering. Do every "handling" upgrade you can that is appropriate to towing.

ATF and PSF auxiliary coolers and filters as well.
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Old 09-13-2009, 12:54 PM   #79
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The '72 Burb is a station wagon on a truck frame.All the truck guts are there w/ no mods.The 350 is strong.Hard to find 3 door gets looks.All I did was tune it and buy 4 Uniroyal load range C tires on sale at Walmart.The barn doors make things easy too.
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Rod,

Axle ratio's for that year for all FLM products are;
2 = 2.75
3 = 2.79
4 = 2.80
6 = 3.00
7 = 3.10
9 = 3.25
A = 3.50
C = 3.08

Letters from K to W = limited slip axles.

I also invite you to the Mercury Forums at IMOA

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Old 09-23-2009, 12:16 AM   #82
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Hey guys,

I found the original build sheet and I think the axle ratio is 2.75:1, good highway gears, but not so good for pulling (Hey, Barry, could you find out if Lee still had the 3.55s left?). I'll attach a copy of the build sheet for you guys to look at. I did notice that on Line "D" of the build sheet there is an 'X' under Suspension Packages - Trailer Tow. Any idea what this means? BTW, Barry, apparently this wagon was green when it came off the line, just like your dad's.

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Trailer tow package usually means
HD Turn sig flasher
HD Shocks
Larger tires
Larger alternator - if it has AC then there is no difference (In '66 this was 455 amp)
Larger radiator - if it has AC then there is no difference
May be larger stab bar up front and bigger springs

In later years it also had wiring pigtail for trailer lights.

Also know that station wagons typically came equipped with more HD features than all other models.

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Also know that station wagons typically came equipped with more HD features than all other models.

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True and if you worked on the line where the vehicle was made it got some extra attention.

I know a guy who worked for GM on the Pontiac line. He followed the build of his late 60's Pontiac wagon. He had the guys add extra material to the frame to make it extra heavy duty.
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