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Old 09-18-2012, 08:10 AM   #71
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All the new big pickup diesels are wonderful trucks but they are god awful expensive (at least 50K), twice what I paid for my 08 Tundra.
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Thats because they are 3X the truck.
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Old 09-18-2012, 08:35 AM   #72
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^^ I was thinkin that but didnt say it lol
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Old 09-18-2012, 08:40 AM   #73
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Ah yes the diesel vs gas question once again. Just back from our trip from Texas to Alberta Ca 4552 miles.
While in Banff NP we camped next to a very nice full time couple from California. They had a very nice typical white box and a new chevy 6.0 gas tv. Trailer weighed out at 4800 loaded. He said his mileage was 6-8 when traveling in hill country Much better in flatlands.
Ours, over 6 grand loaded with a 350 Ford Diesel averaged 19 the entire trip.
Passed many a gas tv struggling up the hills in Wyoming and Montana on I 25 and I 90.
Have to say that we felt more comfortable/safe in our truck. Did we feel overly compensated, yes
Mileage varies...
What year is your truck? Must notta been the 6.0 or 7.3 lol
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Old 09-18-2012, 09:16 AM   #74
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Just wanted to post some numbers.
From my last fillip of 42 gallons of regular unleaded, I traveled 662 miles on mixed terrain, sunny day, 60 MPH.
My odometer and gps were within a mile. Quick math says that's close to 15 mpg. My AS is a 34, moderately loaded full of water, no waste..

Happy with this.
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Old 09-18-2012, 09:22 AM   #75
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No Thanks. After all that, you might get 15 mpg, but you might get only 10, 11 or 12. Your truck will be louder than the new ones, won't ride as well, won't stop as well because no ABS, won't handle as safely because, no vehicle stability control, inferior A/C, probably only a single cab, no 6 speed tranny and not as reliable. Now after all this, you may get 1k of your 10k investment back because nobody really wants it (including you).
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1. Loudness is determined by muffler choice
2. Firestone air ride available as are numerous shock/spring combos
3. Aftermarket 4 wheel disk brake kits with ABS about a grand
4. Just installed vintage air in my 60 T-Bird that is as good as my wife's factory air in a Chrysler T&C
5. Six speed transmissions can be ordered with specific gear ratios
6. Aftermarket EFI on an efficient manifold will help get the 15 MPG.

Throw in some European buckets with a killer sound system and you have a tow truck that will be cheap to insure and register.

Think outside the box
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Old 09-18-2012, 10:20 AM   #76
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Just wanted to post some numbers.
From my last fillip of 42 gallons of regular unleaded, I traveled 662 miles on mixed terrain, sunny day, 60 MPH.
My odometer and gps were within a mile. Quick math says that's close to 15 mpg. My AS is a 34, moderately loaded full of water, no waste..

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What TV is that?
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Old 09-18-2012, 11:12 AM   #77
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I also use all synthetic oils.... nothing fancy.
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Old 09-18-2012, 11:34 AM   #78
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^^^ Thats what I was about to say lol. V10s are notoriously gas hogs. Iv honestly never heard of a v10 getting 15 empty...
My 2000 V10 gets 12 or so pulling a 26' at 60 MPH average. I have seen as much as 18MPG not towing on highway speeds with 3 or 4 people inside.
It runs on regular too.

I pulled a 31 Excella for awhile and got almost the same mileage but the start off the line was a little slower.

If Ford put the V10 gasser in an F250 it would be a great tow vehicle.
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I get about 12MPG with my V6 Traverse when towing, and average 18/23 when solo. Nothing remarkable compared to a diesel, but then I only paid $26K for it (8-month old w/20k miles). Anything that gets better mileage wasn't worth the price considering how little we tow. When buying a vehicle the only thing I look at is (1) does it meet my needs and (2) the total cost of ownership. For me that immediately eliminates anything new or anything that has a turbo or diesel in it.
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1. Loudness is determined by muffler choice
2. Firestone air ride available as are numerous shock/spring combos
3. Aftermarket 4 wheel disk brake kits with ABS about a grand
4. Just installed vintage air in my 60 T-Bird that is as good as my wife's factory air in a Chrysler T&C
5. Six speed transmissions can be ordered with specific gear ratios
6. Aftermarket EFI on an efficient manifold will help get the 15 MPG.

Throw in some European buckets with a killer sound system and you have a tow truck that will be cheap to insure and register.

Think outside the box
You have the fun and satisfaction of building that truck yourself, simple as an airstream trailer and you can fix it yourself.
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If Ford put the V10 gasser in an F250 it would be a great tow vehicle.
They did lol. Theres 10 of them on ebay!
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They did lol. Theres 10 of them on ebay!
Not to mention autotrader.com. There's even one for sale in my neighborhood.
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Oh OH Duh...don't know that I have ever seen one! Still loving the Excursion though.
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Thats because they are 3X the truck.
r carl, ElcaminoMan

I suspect that neither of you have driven one, so you don't realize just how good the 5.7L Tundra is. The big diesels are a lot better in terms of payload and towing grunt, but my Tundra tows my load just fine (I'll race you 0-60), rides much better empty and treats my Airstream better too.

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