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Old 10-19-2007, 10:08 AM   #57
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Kevin, looks like Michelle has a challenge for you!
Hey lets meet in Truckee heading west bound 80 at the agricultural inspection station since it's a good place to start from a standing stop and pull to the top of Donner summit of only a mere 7,239 ft. I'd like to see your hemi pull 85 mph on those 6% grades. My set up will pull the last incline at 77 mph.
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Old 10-19-2007, 10:51 AM   #58
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donner summit?

so the loser will be served...

for lunch

hold the show i'm coming!

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Old 10-19-2007, 12:17 PM   #59
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choices are good

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Kevin, looks like Michelle has a challenge for you!
Hey lets meet in Truckee heading west bound 80 at the agricultural inspection station since it's a good place to start from a standing stop and pull to the top of Donner summit of only a mere 7,239 ft. I'd like to see your hemi pull 85 mph on those 6% grades. My set up will pull the last incline at 77 mph.
Oh please don't challenge kevbo, consider the lives of those unfortunate travelers on 80 when kevbo starts to jetison the cord of wood he keeps in the truck to gain speed....oh the humanity..

As for the topic......Ford makes the best truck with a questionable motor (6.0 was a piece of junk for many, 6.4 is too new to tell) Dodge has a kick butt powerplant in the Cummins with a so-so transmission, GM makes a gentlemens truck with a diesel/transmission option prefered by many. The Tundra is a typical Toyota, strong, reliable, with lots of value features, but it is really a strong 1/2 ton, not in the same class as the HD domestics.

There is no clear winner in this debate...that is why there are choices in a free economy.....we all see things differently.

Good luck on your choice.

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Old 10-19-2007, 12:27 PM   #60
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Hi, I just towed a '76 Argosy 26D 1200 miles, from North central Ohio to central Oklahoma with an '08 Tundra I rented from Budget. When I say "just", I mean I got home Thurs. afternoon. It has plenty of power, and if you use the Tow Command the way it needs to be used, you will be very pleased. I did the trip in 20 hours with zero problems, other than those inherent in towing a restoration candidate. The truck will keep up with hills, the flats, and on cruise control to boot! It never lacked for power or the appropriate gear. I am a die-hard Ford man, however I am VERY impressed with this truck.
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Old 10-19-2007, 01:41 PM   #61
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Hi, I just towed a '76 Argosy 26D 1200 miles, from North central Ohio to central Oklahoma with an '08 Tundra I rented from Budget. When I say "just", I mean I got home Thurs. afternoon. It has plenty of power, and if you use the Tow Command the way it needs to be used, you will be very pleased. I did the trip in 20 hours with zero problems, other than those inherent in towing a restoration candidate. The truck will keep up with hills, the flats, and on cruise control to boot! It never lacked for power or the appropriate gear. I am a die-hard Ford man, however I am VERY impressed with this truck.
That 26' Argo would be what-4000#? Certainly within 1/2 ton range...
Good score. I am surprised a rental agency let you tow with their truck? I thought this was verbotten?

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Old 10-19-2007, 02:54 PM   #62
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I am surprised a rental agency let you tow with their truck? I thought this was verbotten?

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We rented a Dodge 3500 from Budget this summer for a vacation trip with our 24' Argosy while I had my Travelall tore apart. We told them exactly what we wanted to do and they said, "OK". The truck was 3000 miles new with a factory tow package. Budget had full-size vans with towing packages available, too. I do remember they would not offer us their insurance coverage. We called our agent to make sure we would be covered under our own policy with the rental.
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Old 10-19-2007, 03:14 PM   #63
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We rented a Dodge 3500 from Budget this summer for a vacation trip with our 24' Argosy while I had my Travelall tore apart. We told them exactly what we wanted to do and they said, "OK". The truck was 3000 miles new with a factory tow package. Budget had full-size vans with towing packages available, too. I do remember they would not offer us their insurance coverage. We called our agent to make sure we would be covered under our own policy with the rental.
Hi Tim, I was under the impression that you could not tow with rental vehicles...good to know, especialy if you have to do a one way trip. What do you do about WD?

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Old 10-19-2007, 03:27 PM   #64
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What do you do about WD?

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Can you define WD for me? I'm not good with acronyms. That is to say , I'm just not good guessing what they mean.
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WD=Weight Distribution - type of hitch apparatus that transfers some of the hitch weight from the rear axle of the tow vehicle to the front of the tow vehicle (keep in mind this is a very simplistic explanation please).
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Oh yeah... weight distribution with a rented tow vehicle.

Well... after consulting with my lawyers, I am taking the 5th.
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Old 10-19-2007, 06:36 PM   #67
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Or listen to those that USED to have 1/2 tons...and now tow with heavy duty trucks...

If that is your first truck-I am sure you are impressed.

Most Folks that tow with 1/2 tons have not had the opportunity to tow with 3/4 tons.
Most Folks that tow with 3/4 tons, USED to have 1/2 tons (and would not go back).

Until you have had the benefit of experiencing both, you just don't know...

1/2 tons are a good compromise between car and truck. Fine for local towng, 5000# or so. When you move beyond that, it is time to step up.There is no comparison between the Toyota (or any 1/2 ton) and 3/4 ton trucks.

The originator of this post was alluding to that.


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Yeah, yeah, yeah... what Bill said.

I'm a FORMER 1/2 tonner (does not really matter what brand, but if you need to know - Nissan Titan). After "seeing the light (1/2 ton vs 3/4 ton or 1 ton lumination), I came over from the "dark side" (I now tow with an 06 Ford PSD). As Bill has stated in so many words, you really need to experience BOTH size trucks for an accurate comparison. In my opinion, once you go 3/4 or 1 ton after a 1/2 ton truck you will ask yourself why did I ever mess with that thing in the first place.
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Old 10-19-2007, 06:54 PM   #68
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hitch 'um up

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If my only options were to stop camping or tow a 34' with a 1/2 ton...

A good hitch, upgraded suspension, 4.56 gears and I'll see ya'll in the slow lane

My parents towed our "home", a 35 foot camp model, with a 56 Ford wagon when I was newborn. That's how we moved 3 times . Do I qualify as 'trailer trash' ?
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If my only options were to stop camping or tow a 34' with a 1/2 ton...

A good hitch, upgraded suspension, 4.56 gears and I'll see ya'll in the slow lane

My parents towed our "home", a 35 foot camp model, with a 56 Ford wagon when I was newborn. That's how we moved 3 times . Do I qualify as 'trailer trash' ?
We're all trailer trash-that's why we hang out here!

But me thinks, if you can afford a 34' AS, a HA hitch (if that's what you are referring to) and all those other "upgrades" then it sounds like you could afford to get into a proper TV (doesn't need to be new). All those band aids do not increase a trucks tow capacity...
Again, I am not saying everyone needs a 3/4 ton, but when you get over 6000#, tow great distances, and/or tow often then you are kidding yourself if you don't get into a heavy duty truck. Many here have learned that (me included) and that's why we preach it. Maybe we can prevent someone from making an expensive 1/2 ton mistake, or worse...
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Check your gas mileage

I just got a call from a friend pulling 6500 pounds with his new Tundra...7.8 MPG. With that you cannot go out west without a half dozen gas cans in the back!
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