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10-11-2007, 09:42 PM
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More than one rivet loose
Currently Looking...
Los Alamos
, New Mexico
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 3,756
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My rig
Here is my rig 8,000 lbs (truck loaded/ 9,000+- max) + 9,000 +- lbs (trailer loaded/ 10,000 max).
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Michelle TAC MT-0
Sarah, Snowball
Looking for a 1962 Flying Cloud
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10-16-2007, 08:33 PM
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#42
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2 Rivet Member
2007 25' Safari FB SE
Kennesaw
, Georgia
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 74
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I have an '07 25' Safari FB SE and pull it with an '07 5.7 Tundra SR5 DoubleCab 2wd. I've pulled my A/S into North Carolina, Tennessee, and North Georgia; up and down hills and along freeways. The Tundra absolutely is an excellent tow vehicle for this size A/S; the 6-speed tranny and 5.7 are a perfect combo. I get about 17 mpg non-towing and 12 mpg towing.
Also, when not towing, the Tundra can out-accelerate any truck and most cars; try that in yer diesel rig. Also comes with side curtain/side airbags standard.
Get the Tundra!
Lance
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10-17-2007, 10:06 AM
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#43
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More than one rivet loose
Currently Looking...
Los Alamos
, New Mexico
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 3,756
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I have beaten many a vehicle off the line at a traffic light. with my diesel truck. not towing of cource.
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Michelle TAC MT-0
Sarah, Snowball
Looking for a 1962 Flying Cloud
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10-17-2007, 11:43 AM
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Rivet Master
2005 28' Safari S/O
Paradise
, California
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 3,446
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BillTex started the following thread about frame strength (thanks Bill). Check out the youtube videos in posts #1 and #5. The video of the Tundra on the test track (post #5) is downright scary...
http://www.airforums.com/forums/f463...gth-36916.html
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Steve
"THE OLDER I GET, THE BETTER I WAS"
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10-17-2007, 11:52 AM
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#45
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Rivet Master
2005 25' International CCD
1954 22' Flying Cloud
1957 22' Flying Cloud
Simi Valley
, California
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 2,251
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Quote:
Originally Posted by outthere
\\ MASSIVE SNIP //
Toyota: 5.7L gas; 381 hp; 401 torque; 6 speed auto;GVWR 7100; payload: 1555; tow cap: 10,200; curb weight 5445.
Ford F250: 6.4L Diesel; 350 hp; 650 torque; 5 speed auto; GVWR: 10,000; payload: 2410; tow cap: 12,500; curb weight: 7000.
Dodge 2500: 6.7L Diesel; 350 hp, 650 torque; 6 speed; GVWR: 8800; payload: 3130; tow cap: 13,250; curb weight: 6500
Chevy 2500: 6.6L Diesel: 365 hp; 660 torque; 6 speed; GVWR: 9200; payload: 3465; tow cap: 13,000; curb weight: 6006
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if it isn't a HEMI, why bother...
diesel: you pay more for the truck, for the fuel, there not reliable... just came back from the new mexico balloon fiesta w/ 22 'dream streams. only two breakdowns. both diesels.... Hemi's sure ran fast and better mileage too...
flame away...
just sayin,
kevbo
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10-17-2007, 12:15 PM
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#46
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Rivet Master
2005 25' International CCD
1954 22' Flying Cloud
1957 22' Flying Cloud
Simi Valley
, California
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 2,251
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Quote:
Originally Posted by thecatsandi
I have beaten many a vehicle off the line at a traffic light. with my diesel truck. not towing of cource.
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let me guess? *rolling eyes
Yugo
ford taurus
vw bug
how bout steppin around 10 big rigs going str8 up a summit about 6,000 ft, say starting at 40mph. i'll take the hemi. i'll get to speed, say 85, B4 your turbo can think about saying "BOOST"... diesel huffin n puffin...
i love the forums...
overly chatty as usual,
kevin
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10-17-2007, 01:07 PM
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#47
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2 Rivet Member
2007 25' Safari FB SE
Kennesaw
, Georgia
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 74
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I didn't really mean to turn this thread into a drag-racin' showdown
All I'm saying is that the Tundra has performed well for my needs while towing and is faster than most vehicles when not towing. And let's talk about stopping the whole rig; check out the front brakes on the Tundra; big and beefy with four-piston calipers.
You can argue all day about stats, videos, and magazine articles; talk and listen to the owners of the vehicles you're interested in.
Buy the Tundra
Lance
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10-17-2007, 01:36 PM
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1 Rivet Short
1989 25' Excella
By The Bay
, Rhode Island
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 1,620
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TennisMan
You can argue all day about stats, videos, and magazine articles; talk and listen to the owners of the vehicles you're interested in.
Buy the Tundra
Lance
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Or listen to those that USED to have 1/2 tons...and now tow with heavy duty trucks...
If that is your first truck-I am sure you are impressed.
Most Folks that tow with 1/2 tons have not had the opportunity to tow with 3/4 tons.
Most Folks that tow with 3/4 tons, USED to have 1/2 tons (and would not go back).
Until you have had the benefit of experiencing both, you just don't know...
1/2 tons are a good compromise between car and truck. Fine for local towng, 5000# or so. When you move beyond that, it is time to step up.There is no comparison between the Toyota (or any 1/2 ton) and 3/4 ton trucks.
The originator of this post was alluding to that.
Bill
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10-17-2007, 01:51 PM
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#49
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USN/LAPD Retired
2005 25' Safari
North Las Vegas
, United States
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 850
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True, True Mr. Bill )
Rick
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2007 Dodge Ram Quadcab 6.7L Diesel w/jakebrake
"Better to have more then you need, then need more then you have because you don't have enough!"
AIR #: 8129
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10-17-2007, 02:00 PM
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Rivet Master
2011 34' Classic
Westchester Cty.NY
, / Miami FL
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 3,122
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"All I'm saying is that the Tundra has performed well for my needs while towing and is faster than most vehicles when not towing. And let's talk about stopping the whole rig; check out the front brakes on the Tundra; big and beefy with four-piston calipers."
i spent all too much time with 4 piston calipers in the '67-'72 era. they would be a negative point in my opinion.
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2012 F150 Super Crew 5-1/2' bed Ecoboost 4x4 3.73 elec. lock diff. Propride hitch
give life. kidney & pancreas transplant 9/9/06
Ingrid-my unofficial '"World's Oldest Streamer" 1909-2008 R.I.P.
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10-17-2007, 03:45 PM
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#51
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Rivet Master
2005 25' International CCD
1954 22' Flying Cloud
1957 22' Flying Cloud
Simi Valley
, California
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 2,251
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TennisMan
You can argue all day about stats, videos, and magazine articles; talk and listen to the owners of the vehicles you're interested in.
Buy the Tundra
Lance
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mr lance,
you deserve the tundra.
sincerely,
kevbo
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10-17-2007, 03:47 PM
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Rivet Master
2005 25' International CCD
1954 22' Flying Cloud
1957 22' Flying Cloud
Simi Valley
, California
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 2,251
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BillTex
\\ POLITE SNIP //
The originator of this post was alluding to that.
Bill
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mr bill,
thank you for clearing up what the original poster was alluding to. who knew!
kevbo
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10-17-2007, 05:48 PM
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#53
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E Pluribus Aluminus
2008 34' Classic S/O
1967 22' Safari
2005 30' Classic
Land Of Enchantment
, New Mexico
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 1,300
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TennisMan
I have an '07 25' Safari FB SE and pull it with an '07 5.7 Tundra SR5 DoubleCab 2wd. I've pulled my A/S into North Carolina, Tennessee, and North Georgia; up and down hills and along freeways. The Tundra absolutely is an excellent tow vehicle for this size A/S; the 6-speed tranny and 5.7 are a perfect combo. I get about 17 mpg non-towing and 12 mpg towing.
Also, when not towing, the Tundra can out-accelerate any truck and most cars; try that in yer diesel rig. Also comes with side curtain/side airbags standard.
Get the Tundra!
Lance
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We've got the F250 Turbo diesel Lariate Crew Cab... just got back to Austin, Tx. from the Branson rally through Missouri & Arkansas. Towed our 30' Classic like a dream at 65 on a 19% grade. Mileage was 13.9MPG averaging 65-70MPH. Usually 14.5MPG w/o towing but then again, it only has less than 14K miles on it. Will break in mighty nicely.
The Tundra may be able to out-accelerate an F250 off a light (not by much, though) w/o the Airstream, but it won't towing one. Guaranteed. The F250 turbo diesel absolutely will take you to highway speeds coming off a ramp towing a trailer just like the Toyota truck with a load of potting soil in it's bed...
I like Toyotas too - had my share of 'em. But until they ante up and build a serious-weight towing vehicle, Ford's my pick.
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Jaxon
WBCCI 7005 * AIR 9218
The trouble with trouble is it always starts out as fun...
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10-17-2007, 11:18 PM
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#54
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More than one rivet loose
Currently Looking...
Los Alamos
, New Mexico
Join Date: Feb 2006
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Ok I'll take that challenge! I get to pick the pass say 8-9000 feet.
I will blow you away towing my Classic 31!
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Michelle TAC MT-0
Sarah, Snowball
Looking for a 1962 Flying Cloud
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10-18-2007, 05:48 AM
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#55
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E Pluribus Aluminus
2008 34' Classic S/O
1967 22' Safari
2005 30' Classic
Land Of Enchantment
, New Mexico
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 1,300
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Quote:
Originally Posted by thecatsandi
Ok I'll take that challenge! I get to pick the pass say 8-9000 feet.
I will blow you away towing my Classic 31!
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I'm with you, Michelle. The turbo diesel F250 is the real deal - got power when you need it not for racing, simply when you need it for safety. Passed several Tonka Trucks towin' SOB's that were obviously under powered... I guess a Tundra V8 towing a 16' would be OK, though...
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Jaxon
WBCCI 7005 * AIR 9218
The trouble with trouble is it always starts out as fun...
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10-19-2007, 06:49 AM
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#56
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Rivet Master
2006 25' Safari FB SE
Currently Looking...
Durango
, Colorado
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 1,112
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Second rifle season starts tomorrow and the outfitters have been setting up camps for the past two weeks. Smallest gooseneck rigs are four horse stock trailers and quite a few six and eight horse Featherlites (the AirStreams of the horse world) going up and down highways 550 and 160. Yet to see a Tundra pulling a horse trailer! Come to think of it, I've only seen one Tundra with a two horse bumper pull at the fairgrounds.
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10-19-2007, 09:08 AM
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#57
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Rivet Master
2002 27' Safari
Carmel-by-the-Sea
, California
Join Date: Aug 2002
Posts: 1,388
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Kevin, looks like Michelle has a challenge for you!
Hey lets meet in Truckee heading west bound 80 at the agricultural inspection station since it's a good place to start from a standing stop and pull to the top of Donner summit of only a mere 7,239 ft. I'd like to see your hemi pull 85 mph on those 6% grades. My set up will pull the last incline at 77 mph.
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10-19-2007, 09:51 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2004
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donner summit?
so the loser will be served...
for lunch
hold the show i'm coming!
cheers
2air'
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10-19-2007, 11:17 AM
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Rivet Master
2006 25' Safari FB SE
Huntington Beach
, California
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 2,293
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choices are good
Quote:
Originally Posted by Coastalview
Kevin, looks like Michelle has a challenge for you!
Hey lets meet in Truckee heading west bound 80 at the agricultural inspection station since it's a good place to start from a standing stop and pull to the top of Donner summit of only a mere 7,239 ft. I'd like to see your hemi pull 85 mph on those 6% grades. My set up will pull the last incline at 77 mph.
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Oh please don't challenge kevbo, consider the lives of those unfortunate travelers on 80 when kevbo starts to jetison the cord of wood he keeps in the truck to gain speed....oh the humanity..
As for the topic......Ford makes the best truck with a questionable motor (6.0 was a piece of junk for many, 6.4 is too new to tell) Dodge has a kick butt powerplant in the Cummins with a so-so transmission, GM makes a gentlemens truck with a diesel/transmission option prefered by many. The Tundra is a typical Toyota, strong, reliable, with lots of value features, but it is really a strong 1/2 ton, not in the same class as the HD domestics.
There is no clear winner in this debate...that is why there are choices in a free economy.....we all see things differently.
Good luck on your choice.
time
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10-19-2007, 11:27 AM
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#60
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New Member
1976 Argosy 26
Norman
, Oklahoma
Join Date: Oct 2007
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Hi, I just towed a '76 Argosy 26D 1200 miles, from North central Ohio to central Oklahoma with an '08 Tundra I rented from Budget. When I say "just", I mean I got home Thurs. afternoon. It has plenty of power, and if you use the Tow Command the way it needs to be used, you will be very pleased. I did the trip in 20 hours with zero problems, other than those inherent in towing a restoration candidate. The truck will keep up with hills, the flats, and on cruise control to boot! It never lacked for power or the appropriate gear. I am a die-hard Ford man, however I am VERY impressed with this truck.
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