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Old 07-27-2006, 12:22 PM   #15
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Hi Chuck--Good point on allowable tow weight with and without a weight distribution hitch. I believe the tongue weight with the wdh you meant to post was 1000lbs.--Frank S
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Old 07-28-2006, 08:47 PM   #16
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All,
Thanks for sharing your experiences and great questions in response.

UPDATE:
WIfe and I went to the closest AS dealer today to "kick the tires" and firm up our choice for the model we eventually wanted to buy. WELL, the timing was pretty good as they had just traded in a 2003 International 22AS. Yes, it's a bit smaller than we originally wanted but with this being our 1st RV, we feel like it's a great unit to start with and we can always go bigger.

It had been purchased there and was owned by an AirForce Colonel who upgraded to a MotorHome. Never been smoked in. He hadn't even taken up the plastic protection over the carpeting. One or two rock dings in the front shields but that's to be expected.

Anyway, Y'all encouraged us to "take the plunge" and buy one. WE DID IT and are planning our 1st weekend away.
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Hi FordTruck--Congratulations--Don't forget to look in your rear view mirror every once and a while, as you will hardly even know that your A/S is there.--Frank S
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Old 07-28-2006, 10:01 PM   #18
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I have nearly the same truck (2005 F150 Supercrew, 5.4 V8, 3.73 gears, tow package) and tow a 2003 Safari 25. It tows great... but get a transmission temp gauge!!! I have found that towing up long steep grades will raise the transmission temperature to 200+ pretty fast. I am looking for an aftermarket transmission cooler.
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Old 07-28-2006, 10:13 PM   #19
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I have nearly the same truck (2005 F150 Supercrew, 5.4 V8, 3.73 gears, tow package) and tow a 2003 Safari 25. It tows great... but get a transmission temp gauge!!! I have found that towing up long steep grades will raise the transmission temperature to 200+ pretty fast. I am looking for an aftermarket transmission cooler.
dmac do you turn off the overdrive? I find that when I do my transmission runs at 180 degree.

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Old 07-29-2006, 12:15 AM   #20
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Hi, FordTruck, Your truck and trailer combination will work just fine. But as a Ford dealer employee since about 1968, All I can say is "read your owner's manual." It will tell you what your specs are without guessing. Not the door sticker, not the VIN tag, not the hitch, and not the tires. And certainly not what a Chevy 5.3L 4:10 hydromatic will tow. I have been pleading with customers for many decades to "READ THEIR OWNER"S MANUALS" virtually everything you need to know and then some is in that little book. And if that seems like a lot, wait till you start reading the Airstream manuals, if you got them.
OK, Lecture is over; enjoy your new truck and trailer. Welcome to the Airstream world.

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Old 07-29-2006, 11:27 PM   #21
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Hi ROBERTSUNRUS--The reference to the Chevy 5.3ltr 4.10 limited slip axle was what works just fine for me with my A/S. Chevy never had a "hydromatic", but they do have a 4-speed automatic transmission. We are all interested in what works or doesn't work for others. I agree that reading and understanding the owners manual is a must. The door sticker, VIN, hitch sticker, and tire info, are also important to determine which specific items in the owners manual pertain to your vehicle, as the owners manual also contains info that does not apply to your vehicle.--Frank S
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Old 07-30-2006, 09:20 PM   #22
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"Chevy never had a Hydromatic"

Mr. Frank S. Never say never was a statement from one of my science teachers in high school. [just a few years back] Hydromatic was actually a truck transmission and Chevrolet did make trucks. Also Hydromatic was highly used in Oldsmobiles and believe it or not Hydromatics were used in early fifties Lincolns, made by Ford. [The Lincolns were made by Ford, not the Hydromatics.] Also as a Chevrolet mechanic in the late sixties I personally repaired Powerglides, Turbo 350's, and Turbo 400's used in vertually all Chevrolets. Please note: Turbo was short for Turbo-Hydromatic.
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Hi ROBERTSUNRUS--Chevy never had a "hydromatic". GM did have a division named Hydramatic, and the automatic transmission they manufactured was called a Hydramatic. These transmissions were used by all GM vehicle divisions, except Buick, for both cars and trucks, as well as Lincoln, and Rolls Royce. In a GM reorganization in the 70's Hydramatic division was rolled into the GM Powertrain Group, and the Hydramatic name discontinued. Prior to the formation of GM Powertrain, Chevy made Powerglides, and Buick made Dynaflows. A few Dynaflows even found their way into Caddys around 1952 when the Hydramatic plant completely burned down, but only for a month, as Hydramatic was back in production in 30 days, led by Don Boyce, who later became a GM VP.--Frank S
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Your right Frank S. I spelled it wrong. Hydramatic not Hydromatic, But I will still stick to my story Chevrolet used Hydramatics.

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PS All this information on transmissions plus a $5.00 bill might buy you a bag of popcorn or cup of coffee.
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Hi ROBERTSUNRUS--You are correct. As I indicated above, all GM vehicle divisions except Buick used Hydramatic transmissions, and Chevrolet is a GM vehicle division.--Frank S
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dmac do you turn off the overdrive? I find that when I do my transmission runs at 180 degree.

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Yes - I have driven long distances with the OD off. I have then tried OD on, and actually found the temp to drop a little. My tranny temp is also dependant on outside air temperature. Unless the tranny is hunting due to a long slight grade or headwinds, I advise OD on.

However, on the steep grades I was referring to... the truck never gets to 4rth, or even 3rd gear. It's in 1st or 2nd going up the steep incline of I-70 approaching the big tunnel in Colorado or going over the high passes. It heats up fast, rising to 210-215 (with outside temperatures of ~85). I stop at turnouts and let it idle to cool down before proceeding. It takes longer to cool down (15 min) than it takes to heat up (5 min).

Also, wind direction seems to play a huge role in gas mileage. With a moderate headwind (10-20 mph) I got 11.5 mpg, but with a tailwind I got 14 mpg.
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Hi dmac--At 62mph I run 2000rpm in 4th gear, and 3000rpm in 3rd gear with a 5.3ltr, 4.10 rear, in a 2001 1/2ton Suburban. At 3000rpm I'm in the torque sweet spot which seems to yield better overall performance, and control of the total rig. I never tow in 4th, and with the tow/haul mode, am able to tow mainly in the torque sweet spot.--Frank S
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