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Old 09-29-2006, 07:40 PM   #29
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You did say barn?

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and there's nothing except the old barn in my line of sight that wasn't built by mother nature.

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Is the barn part of the property you are renting? If so, it would save you a lot of grief if you pulled your Airstream inside, and shut the door. It would help a ton with the heating problem, as you would be out of the wind, and you wouldn't have to worry about ice, snow, or other nasty winter stuff.
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Old 09-29-2006, 09:28 PM   #30
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Cold Climate Wintering

Hi. Wisconsin is surely some of the prettiest scenery and the nicest people is the world. Years ago when I decided to follow my grandparents into the dairy business my grandfather arranged for me to take an AS to stay and work for a few summer and FALL months west of Madison. Didn't take me long to agree with my grandfather that dairy farming was a lot harder than going to college! smile. But the thing is, it gets really COLD! Guess you already know that...

Just a few years back I found myself needing to stay a few weeks longer on a property that I bought and re-sold in Garden City, KS. I put electric heat strip around the fresh water hose, but the furnace could not keep up. I bought and used three little electric ceramic heaters and they worked great, but on two occasions I could not get my door open from ice! The post above about moving into the barn would be nice if it is available. Otherwise, come to LA and park in my barn. Seriously, it sure is going to get to be an ice rink in that shower.

Hope you get it worked out well. Keep us posted. I, for one, would love to hear how you fare.

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Old 09-30-2006, 12:00 AM   #31
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HI, Jim,

Wintering in Atlanta a couple of years in an Argosy 28, I drilled out some of the rivets in the back bumper compartment and put a 60 watt lamp aimed at the drain of the bath tub.

Now I'm back in the same area with an Airstream 31, and I have to think about this once again. I'm going to use the trailer as an office this winter, so it's got to weather the winter with water. (It's a quarter-mile walk to the house, and my imagination runs wild thinking about gastric urgency.)

The furnace in many Airstreams circulates warmth to the holding tanks, so if you want to stay wet, yes, a lot of extra propane is called for.

Gee, I'm a thousand miles south of you, but we'll probably see some nights in the 20's. That's what I'm planning for, anyway. So far, we've seen the high 40's and the heat strip in the old Armstrong has kept it up in the low 70's overnight.

And, yes, I could simply drain the thing and put in a porta-potty, but, hey, I'm used to this old thing and want it to work for me and be WARM when I get into it in the mornings.

By the way, all I have here right now is a pole and a "blue-boy." I have a 150-gallon propane tank coming this week, and I will be using an "Extend-a-Stay" adapter to hook up.

I'm with you all the way. Since 1992, I've had a home, hearth, and warm room that I was always welcome to in north Georgia. My Argosy, and then my Airstream, have been my chosen home since then, and I'm finding it very hard to give this up even though I'm HOME in the full historical and family sense right now.

This topic comes up every winter. We have folks that have wintered all over in their Airstreams, and you can, too.

Some of them will join in this thread. I say, "Go." Grab for it, and you'll have stories to tell right here where folks love stories almost as much as they like pictures.

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Old 09-30-2006, 10:18 AM   #32
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O.K. I'm doing better today! More info on the collector- weight of 32 lbs., foam purchased at lowes 1 sheet 3/4 1 sheet 1/2 the frame uses the 3/4" the divider inside the 1/2". The pics do not really show how the collector works. The thickness is 7". basically what we have is a rectangle 27x61x7. put a shelf into the rectangle centered between the glass top and the bottom foam leaving 4" space at hthe bottom. Finish off the top to fit your application. What we have here is a unit that sets up its owm convective loop. cold air enters the back side , drops down and the shelf is warmed by the sun thus warming the air. the cold air gets warm and rises up and into your rig. If you get the angles for mounting close to optimum- right angles to the sun- you WILL get temps of 145 F. Theres lots of info on the web in my earlier post. Good Luck Tim
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Old 10-01-2006, 08:24 AM   #33
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Here is a link for several articles on cold weather camping.
http://www.ccis.com/home/mnemeth/skp/survive.htm
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Old 10-01-2006, 10:26 AM   #34
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So my plan, so far, for winter is to disconnect the waste hose, empty out the tank, and rig up a cold little toilet & outhouse around the septic tank opening. As far as showering, I'm just about to test this out: still using water heated on the stove, I'm going to plug up the bathroom tub, bathe there, and suck the water out of the tub using a little wet/dry vac that I have, then empty it out every few days outside.

When I read these posts my mind wanders to be young and adventurous again. Good luck and best wishes on your survival. Maybe I'll pull Chummy over by your land one day this winter to see how you are doing and offer you a hot shower.
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Old 10-01-2006, 07:55 PM   #35
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Well thanks again to everyone, especially Waynon for your kind offer- I think it's all going to work out fine here, though. I'll just give it a shot & learn as I go. The barn here doesn't have a door nearly big enough to get a trailer into unfortunately. So I'll put the skirt on (the trailer), get that little toilet rigged up, get myself a co detector, and I'll post any (mis)adventures that come my way. The 3 barn kittens are already hunkering down in front of the door daily with a hopeful look in their eyes. This will be a beautiful place to spend my last northern winter and I'm kind of looking forward to it. Jim
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Old 10-05-2006, 10:28 AM   #36
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Here's the reason I'm giving it a go: the front and back yards....
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Old 10-05-2006, 06:58 PM   #37
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please post pictures from the same spot in january!

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Old 10-05-2006, 09:30 PM   #38
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Barn????

I'm just wondering, and without a picture it is just a thought - If there is a barn and the interior space is large enough, and you only need a bigger door, and you own it (LOTS OF ANDS) then it might be better for you and the camper to modify the door to gain access to the barn. Your overall comfort and possibly survival might make up for the initial expense.

Just a thought.
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Old 10-05-2006, 11:15 PM   #39
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Are you french? if so looks like you have plenty of meat to eat to get thru winter!
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Old 10-10-2006, 04:17 PM   #40
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Just Beautiful!

Your front and back "yards" are calendar quality beautiful.

How much snow will an AS support? Stupid Southern question, probably, but is there any chance of too much snow load?

I know you'll work it out. Just from looking at your beautiful pictures, I wonder if you'll have vehicle access all winter?

The suggestion to take pictures in mid-Winter is a really great idea. That would make a great memory!

Keep us all posted, lots of pictures. You could keep this thread alive all winter like some people do who post their travels to a blog. We could all keep up with your discoveries as you work it out. Then other people could benefit from your experience.

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Old 10-10-2006, 06:23 PM   #41
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In addition to the CO detector, an oxygen-depletion sensor would be a nice idea, since you've got the trailer sealed up so tightly.

I didn't see it addressed, but since you have electricity - why not use a small electric heater (the ceramic type) in addition to the furnace? I've camped many nights (albeit never more than a week) in well-below-freezing temps, and the little heater does an ok job. Then the furnace can cycle in and out every hour or two (or 1/2 hour, depends on the wind)...instead of running constantly.

I have a couple of the little ceramic heaters. One of them has a low and a high heat setting-- the low setting uses only 600 watts, but it throws a surprising amount of heat. I use the low heat setting, the high fan setting, and the furnace rarely has to come on in the daytime.
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Old 10-15-2006, 04:20 PM   #42
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How much?

I read somewhere that 1 inch vent opening for every 1000 BTU burning. So I assuem you would have to allow the same for fresh air coming in.
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