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Old 12-01-2010, 12:43 AM   #99
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Hello Dan, I hope you are still alive and breathing. My name is Patty and I am a new member to the Airstream Forum; your forum on Winter Living in an Airstream has peaked my interest because I may be in the Colorado area around February - March time frame and found many of your questions/answers to be informative and helpful.

The one Q. that has me still searching for an answer is: CONDENSATION. Did you ever get any answers to this issue?

BTW: One thing I do which helps keep me warm before turning in for the night. Heat up some water, make some tea, pour the rest into a water bladder (the old fashion type - usually pink in color) and toss under my blankets. When I'm ready to hit the sack the bed is nice and warm no matter how cold my trailer gets.
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Old 12-01-2010, 04:42 AM   #100
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Do not see how you folks do it full time in AS further north than I am. I'm North Alabama mountain area. 26 degrees, floor is ice cold. Going to try to skirt unit better with plastice all around & maybe put head bulb inside. Replacing original furnace soon, mine 1993 orioginal model, Hope new one works better, ???? no idea if it will improve heat. 30,000 btu unit.

Like AS but this will be a challenge for me. Good luck to the rest of us AS liveaboards.

Lived on a sailboat in north west Florida for years, water was much warmer I guess to keep hull/floor warmer than this.

Cold in Alabamy.
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Old 12-01-2010, 08:32 PM   #101
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So far no problems with condensation, although the air in Denver is generally very dry. After each shower I wipe up the water drops with a sponge, open the roof vent, and run the fan for a few minutes to get rid of the humidity. If condensation troubles develop I will purchase a dehumidifier.
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Old 12-02-2010, 05:14 AM   #102
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Skirt, Ain't pretty but sure works

Gorilla tape works great.
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Old 12-02-2010, 02:23 PM   #103
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You guys (and gals) are amazing! I got my first AS last Spring and am facing my first winter, mild as it may be in North Florida. I had thought about taking it out to Colorado for the ski season......but I guess not. I want to use my trialer this winter on some fishing trips, so I don't want to fully winterize it. After pouring over all 8 pages of comments I think I'll try skirting my 23FB and using a heat lamp while it's at my house and use my furnace when it gets down into the 20's the few nights it gets cold. I really appreciate all the comments on this blog and would love to camp with all of you!
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Old 12-05-2010, 10:11 PM   #104
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a wing and a.....

the next three days will be a good test. louisville lows are forcast for mid teens. I've got a heavy vinyl skirt and all glass and roof vents are insulated. insulation in the voids under the bed and sofa. my hose is heated and foam insulated with the slack wrapped at the inlet. i'm using two electric heaters, for and aft and so far i've kept temps above 65o at 28o outside. that s only running the heaters at 50%-75%. if my pipes burst i'm done for.
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Old 12-06-2010, 10:08 AM   #105
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Winterizing

It gets alot colder up there than it does down here, but we're going down into the 20's the next 3 nights, so I'll have a good test, too. I found some rolls of what looks like fairly dense bubble wrap with foil on both sides at Lowe's that I made a skirt out of. It fit nicely into the gap below the aluminum trim on the lower side of the trailer. It went around the corners nicely, too, much better than styrofoam would have been to work with. I left the hitch end un-skirted and put a low, directional space heater under the front of the trailer and turned it on when the temp got down to 33 last night. This morning I could feel warm air seeping out of the wheelwells and other places where there were some small gaps in my skirt. Very encouraging. I'll set my furnace tonight to run when the interior gets below 35 or so if the thermostat will let me set it that low. I'm not sleeping out there, just don't want my pipes/tanks to freeze. Somehow I'm having a hard time justifying putting antifreeze in my tanks and lines and trusting that I can flush it all out so my water will be safe to drink or even brush my teeth. Hopefully this will work for the few days we get below freezing down here......
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Old 12-06-2010, 10:59 AM   #106
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I know I've written this before and probably on this thread, but it's important. It's the air gaps in any insulation anywhere that cause the most thermal transfer, i. e., loss of heat or cooling (depending what you want to keep in). That open space at the front of the trailer will result in a lot of heat loss, especially if there's a breeze.

Bob, given where you are, you probably don't have much of a problem, but that space heater would run a lot less if the underside were enclosed. The thermostat in our trailer goes down to 40˚; it's probably the same in yours. At temps of 20˚ and above the furnace should be plenty to keep the pipes and tanks warm enough. Below that, I'd turn up the furnace. With what sounds like Reflectix around the trailer, you should be good for the teens.

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Old 12-06-2010, 11:06 AM   #107
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I really hate saying this, but being experienced with Fla. drinking water, the pink stuff might help. Sal.
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Old 12-06-2010, 11:14 AM   #108
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RV antifreeze

Somehow I'm having a hard time justifying putting antifreeze in my tanks and lines and trusting that I can flush it all out so my water will be safe to drink or even brush my teeth. Hopefully this will work for the few days we get below freezing down here......[/QUOTE]

RV antifreeze will not hurt you. Thats why they sell it as RV ANTIFREEZE.
When you flush it out in the spring, usually the second flush removes any trace. It does not appear to spoil the filter ability, but does take a full flush to run clear.
I usually run the bleach on the second flush, which I think is always a good idea after the trailer sits for any length of time. (info on this is available on this site)
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Some folks here have suggested using cheap vodka instead of pink stuff.

Mix with OJ for an eye-opener.

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Old 12-06-2010, 01:35 PM   #110
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Some say RV antifreeze tastes bad. Maybe the reason is:

1. Buying really cheap RV antifreeze that tastes bad instead of brand name stuff.
2. Not flushing the potable water tank with chlorine in the spring. Chlorine tastes bad too but may mask the taste of the antifreeze.
3. Not flushing the tank enough in the spring. Three flushes works for us—first drain the antifreeze, then fill with chlorine treated water and run through water lines, drain, fill with fresh water 2 times, drain. We also sanitize again in mid summer to make sure all is clean.

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Old 12-06-2010, 10:26 PM   #111
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I will say that living in a travel trailer without the "travel" part is less than desirable! I think it would be a lot better if I could find somewhere else to park it. There just are not many year-round campgrounds near Denver that allow an extended stay.

At least the winter preparations are working okay, no freezups, and it's warm inside. So far the heating costs are acceptable - mostly using the heat pump.
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Old 12-07-2010, 04:55 AM   #112
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Skirt. Simple black plastic sheets can be use to completely seal AS body to the ground, 100% all the way around, no open holes at all. Take long sheet 3-4 feet wide, just cut to fit sides of AS, open space for furnace openings, & hot water heater of course, tape to body, secure on ground with blocks, weights. It works well, seals out any open space.
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