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Old 12-29-2015, 08:28 PM   #29
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Unhappy cold weather camping

Thanks for all the info. We have camped 40+ years, from tents to PU OH campers, to 34' box trlrs w/slides and now AS 28' Serenity. I never have seen info about R factor of insulation on AS TT. All the brochure says is ecobacked insulation.

In hot weather our 2 ACs do great! Cold weather not as good. It seems to go tin can camping and using bottled water is best with a good electric ceramic heater if you have electric available.
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Old 08-29-2016, 10:18 PM   #30
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My wife and I are really consumed by this "full time " dream. I'm realizing that for 12-16 weeks out of the year we'll just have to hug the southern portion of the country. But realizing that's a huge area! We both are watching countless hours of YouTube, a plethora of knowledge. We tend to research things to death but I learned early on in my life, "prior proper planning prevents poor performance ".
Just head to San Antonio, or South Texas no problem with Winter weather.
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Old 08-29-2016, 11:14 PM   #31
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I'll spare you why we did this, but we used 3 5 gallon containers, kept outside the trailer, as our water supply to last us 1 week. We used a catalytic heater with the window cracked open, always off for the night. Lastly, we'd do spit baths when needed, but went to town and had full showers at the local year-round swimming pool. This worked for 2 adults and 2 toddlers.
I always swore to be eternally grateful for water, any temperature, that came out of a tap and without limit.
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Old 02-07-2018, 12:13 PM   #32
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We have 2016FC23D, and the most vulnerable plumbing is in the rear storage compartment, which is under the bed. This is where cold water runs from the city water inlet/pump to the kitchen. (Hot water runs from WH to the bathroom.) Valves for low point drains are also in this compartment.

No matter how much you crank up the furnace, hot air isn't going to reach here, and I believe it is the first place the pipes freeze.

I'm thinking of putting a small space heater (200W) to keep this tiny space above freezing during winter camping in addition to running the furnace.

I think it'll work because we only winter camp for a couple of days, and if we ever have to leave the trailer unattended, we can put AF in the pipes.
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Have you had issues with that area under the bed freezing up in the past? I do a lot of winter camping and there's typically enough residual heat to keep areas like that warm enough. You could always try it as is and see how it goes. I bet that worst case scenario a line may freeze up, but I doubt to the point that something busts. An easy safeguard might be to install a passive vent or two in that area, which would allow room air to circulate through there.

For some extra reading on winter camping you might enjoy some threads here... http://www.aviontrailers.net/viewforum.php?f=39
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Have you had issues with that area under the bed freezing up in the past? I do a lot of winter camping and there's typically enough residual heat to keep areas like that warm enough. You could always try it as is and see how it goes. I bet that worst case scenario a line may freeze up, but I doubt to the point that something busts. An easy safeguard might be to install a passive vent or two in that area, which would allow room air to circulate through there.

For some extra reading on winter camping you might enjoy some threads here... http://www.aviontrailers.net/viewforum.php?f=39
On our way home back from the last trip, we encountered temperatures in teens. First, we opened the low drain point valves, but it was too late. They were already frozen. We attempted to put AF in the pipes, but we could only do so to the bathroom sink, toilet and shower. AF couldn't reach the kitchen faucet because (I imagine) ice was blocking the pipe somewhere, and I believe that it first happened in the pipes in the storage compartment. The reason why I suspect this is because it is isolated from the rest of the trailer. There are two tiny holes through which the pipe run in and out. If warm air from the furnace is to reach this compartment, it is through these holes. (I don't think that's sufficient especially if the cabinet doors are closed.) There is a small round hole from which we can access the low point drain valve, but there is usually the mattress there blocking air flow through this hole.

In retrospect, we should have winterized before leaving the camp site, but I realize that the pipes in this compartment could have freezen even when we are at a camp site with hook up, blasting furnace for the reason I mentioned above. So that's why I'm going to get a small space heater (found one with 250W) and put it there while we are camping.
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