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Old 12-02-2007, 06:58 AM   #15
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I didn't grow up in Minnesota, so you can't say I don't know better. And I'm not a skier or snowboarder, so that can't be why I look forward to winter and snow.

Snow pulls a community together. It's "We're all in this together", helping to shovel out an elderly neighbor's driveway, pulling a car out of the ditch, and watching kids head off to the hill with their sleds.

No matter how ugly your neighbors landscaping, even if he has an old airstream parked next to his house, it will look better buried under a foot of clean, white snow.

And we know that in 4 months we will have spring. Then summer follows that. And fall. Then we're back to winter.

Maybe someone can explain Aridzona to me. Or Las Vegas. I won't visit Florida anymore since my parents moved to Washington. I find southern California cute, but boring. Northern California is OK, along with Oregon and Washington.

Yeah, we like snow.
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Dave -- road & driveway snow issues are distractions for a minor percent of these winter months. I'm thinking of planting palm trees if the last 10 years are any indication. Winter has moderated a lot!

OTOH the basaltic Laurentian shield of Minnesota, Wisconsin & much of Canada east & west of Hudson Bay is one of the most stable geologic features on the face of earth.
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Old 12-02-2007, 08:08 AM   #17
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Hi All...our "acres" are beautiful...we live in the "higher elevations along the North shore"...those form Minnesota will recognize as the weather forecast for Duluth and the area often states that there may be more snow "in the higher elevations...".

It appears we got close to 18"...kind of hard to measure with the drifting, etc. I got up anticipating a significant snow shovel job...and surprise...my wife went out at 4:30AM and did it for me ...she is an early riser. To be honest...we have a pretty good walk around our house and in front of the garage...but a neighbor plows our large circular driveway. I enjoy watching his skill as he cleans it so neatly.

It is good to get lots of snow early...to prevent the COLD that will come after the "low " passes...from freezing deep into the ground...and messing with septic systems (we are in the country!)...or underground pipes in the city.

Also, winter is not nearly as bad to handle with the fine new vehicles (4wd, syn oil, elec ingintion and great tires)we have these days. I still remember when the tires would get so flat that you could not push start because the tires would just slide...not uncommon at all to have your car not start.

With the temps in the 20's may be a day for a snowshoe on out trail...Best...Tom R

P.S. This weather is also why I would need a big new garage to store an AS...IF I ever buy one TMR
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Old 12-02-2007, 10:04 PM   #18
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OTOH the basaltic Laurentian shield of Minnesota, Wisconsin & much of Canada east & west of Hudson Bay is one of the most stable geologic features on the face of earth.
Uh...Bob, I'll take your word for it!
Thanks for the responses. When we were in Vermont two years ago, I heard a lot of the same responses and viewpoints from folks there. Ever since, I have had the idea of doing a temperary home swap or something similar so that we can see what it's like. One of the folks we talked to was an inn keeper who had moved there from Napa Valley, CA. He loves it there. BTW, his inn is the former residence of Norman Rockwell. Pretty cool area.
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Old 12-02-2007, 10:25 PM   #19
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Had a little teaser at 2:45 PM but I think it as finally started to come down now. This is our second, as we've already received 4 inches before Thanksgiving.

Spent the day rolling up the garden hoses, putting away
pond equipment/tiki lamps/and testing the generator... nothing like waiting 'til the last minute and squeezing every last second out of Autumn!

Oh, and packing the Caravel for the next adventure.....
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Wow, what a difference. I spent yesterday installing roof decking on a log cabin - no shirt and sweating in the 75 degree heat . Then again it was 39 outside this morning after the front passed. At least the Hickory and Beach trees still have some beautiful colors.

I like to visit the snow but don't care for the grey mushy stuff once the initial 'Wow - White' is over.
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Had a little teaser at 2:45 PM but I think it as finally started to come down now.
Our Saturday snow is pasting New England right now. I was sharing info with a new member from southern Wisconsin a week ago. They picked up their new Airstream out east this weekend. It will be good to hear that they played it safe and got home all the same.
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Old 12-03-2007, 09:18 AM   #22
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I moved to Minnesota in 1970 so enjoyed that decade of super cold and blizzards, de rigueur snowmobile suits, long johns and auto tank heaters. Lately Minnesota has seemed rather mild to me considering Lake Minnetonka was open almost until the new year last winter and almost ruined the On It and In It polar plunge on New Year's day.

New Year's Day Plunge into Lake Minnetonka


The first real snow of the season was more than welcome. It wasn't quite enough for snowshoeing but another couple of inches may come tomorrow. I only have about 400 lineal feet of driveway to plow. I have a service come in and clear it with a Bobcat. The driveway was clear and the roads were plowed before I got up yesterday morning.
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I'm thinking of planting palm trees if the last 10 years are any indication. Winter has moderated a lot!
Don't plant those palm trees too soon! On the south side of the Twin Cities, (the warm side that is), We got a good 8 inches topped off with sleet and freezing rain. I plowed all yesterday morning. 4 degrees F this morning and more snow coming tomorrow.
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Old 12-03-2007, 09:56 AM   #24
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Hey Guys,

Had about the same 18" at our place ( High area just outside of Duluth) like Tom. We're native Minnesotans and love the change of season. To those who can't imagine it... Imagine this with me.... There is nothing like a late night stroll through the woods on snowshoes with a clear sky and giant moon shining in the sky. At some point I find myself stopping and just standing absolutely still... tehn hold my breath to hear absolute silence in the woods. It is an amazing thing today to hear absolutely nothing at all. Then to hear a gentle wind brush through the tree tops is almost impossible to explain. The bright moon shines off of the snow creating so much light that you don't even need any light to see the trail. The light from the moon actually casts shadows against the forest floor. When we get that kind of a still, cold, bright night, there's nothing like a winter hike. The cold air temps??? when you shoe in the woods you start by putting lots of warm clothes on, and then peel them off systematically as you walk on top of the snow... You actually generate so much heat, that you typically don't get cold! We use the old wooden "classic" shoes and wear Steiger Mukluks. Warm and dry! Check out the mukluks on their website Steger Moosehide Mukluks and Moccasins &#124; Home and look at the tall moosehide boots. They feel like slippers (very light weight, but oh so warm). My wife used to have cold feet all the time when we were outside. NO MORE!

I realize it must sound crazy to anyone who hasn't had the chance to try it out... It is just a wonderful way to spend an evening. It's a whole new way to experience the outdoors!
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The bright moon shines off of the snow creating so much light that you don't even need any light to see the trail. The light from the moon actually casts shadows against the forest floor.
Yep. We take our black Lab for a walk down our drive, (1/2 mile), most every night. Last night was just way too windy though. Had to cut it short. Nights can be soo black that the moon makes it look like daylight out there. Hmmmm, does that make sense?

My only problem is having to move the stuff.
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When I don my aluminum snow shoes I also don the synthetic snow mobil suit which crackles as you move. What I really like is my deerskin bomber jacket and a good stocking cap. I got my jacket from Ubber Glove Company. I also got two pair of gloves made of deerskin. One lined and one unlined. Really soft. I use the unlined ones for shooting. My bomber jacket is lined and with a high collar which I can turn up for the wind.
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Makes a lot of sense to me! I'd love to introduce everyone to that kind of experience... The Sno-Suit sounds like a great addition, but don't you get waaaaaay too warm in that?
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Just unzip the front as you go. It's light weight enough so that it doesn't drag you down either.
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