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Old 01-27-2006, 05:25 PM   #15
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You need to find someone who can check out your furnace for you... perhaps someone on the forums might look at it?
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I assume that the motivation to use as much electric heat as possible is that electricity is "free" for you (embedded in your parking space rent), correct? If so, then a couple of good electric heaters will save you a lot on the heat bill. But without the furnace running the warmed air does not circulate the through the vents, or to the water and waste tanks. Perhaps when it is very cold you could leave the furnace fan running?

Putting some kind of skirting around the trailer will help, perhaps with a small "ceramic" or "oil-filled" electric heater - all mentioned earlier.

How cold does it get there?


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Thanks for your reply. I think that running the furnace fan is a great idea, and I'll try that next time its super cold. I definitely think the suggestions people have been making to make or get some sort of skirting are useful - I will do that for next year since I've only got about a month more of super-cold temps left (yay!). The average at night in Santa Fe is about 18 degrees from Dec to Jan. Once we're back above 25 I'll have less problems (so far i know this from november). Right now I've been turning the water off at night and have traced part of the problem to the outside water line, which in spite of heat tape is freezing (ah ha!). Things are looking up!
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Old 01-28-2006, 01:29 PM   #16
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Old 01-28-2006, 04:30 PM   #17
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But you instead of hay bales - you could build a 2x2 spruce frame and staple 6mil plastic sort of a ridgid skirt around the trailer - then either stick a light bulb or two...
I was worried about my winter over experience, but here in Virginia we've had a record mild winter so far. It's only gone below freezing twice this winter for only a day at a time. (Backup plan, pull it to Florida for a month or two.)

I was considering the bubble foil insulation too, and wondering what to fold it over, when I saw plain old chicken wire in the hardware store - dirt cheap and pretty rigid too. I decided that I could get a roll, cut the bottom rail, fold alternate "legs left and right 90 degrees to make a base, cover with the bubble foil inside and out and skirt the whole base just under the edge of the bottom curve touching the top of the belly wrap. There would be no chance of getting a scratch where it would show and no need to tape anything to the side of the trailer. I was planning to cover the wheel wells using higher pieces of chicken wire, cut to match the inside profile of the wheel well, and finished on top with foam hose covering for a tight seal and to keep the raw wire edges from abrading either the bubble insulation or the wheel well.

Knowing I could do this in a single afternoon, I held off - and just haven't needed to do it so far.

In some respects, Airstreams really are ideal for three seasons, the CCD particularly. It does get chilly around the edges on a cold night, but I've got a lot of pillows which "bumper" my bed and keep me away from the br-r-r-r aluminum, and I sleep under a down comforter. (Which next year may be replaced by polyester filled.) Nothing is as comfortable as down, but it doesn't all stay inside the comforter no matter what they say. I've had to take up dusting and sweeping every day or every other day just to keep the featherlets under control. Not whining - it's a 10 minute chore - but I'm embarassed to have folks over if I haven't done it, as they may leave with feather fanny. The tiny feathers cling to everything.

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Old 01-28-2006, 06:44 PM   #18
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I would strongly advise against putting hay, straw or any combustible material under a trailer. It's a fire hazard.
icedcacti, for lots of good tips on winter living in an Airstream, turn up the heat, kick back with your favorite beverage and read throught this lengthy thread:

http://www.airforums.com/forum...ving-2738.html
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Old 09-25-2006, 05:52 PM   #19
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Winter $ Saving Airstream Living

So interested to see another woman braving the winter Airstream land alone! Good for you! It has helped me save enough $ to finally get a place of my own. Maybe the AS will live in the backyard!

It has been such a journey living at your same altitude but here in Colorado! One point I didn't see in this thread is that when you heat tape your hose, take it on inside the trailer, through the opening in the floor where the plumbing comes in. Wrap it tightly, and attach it with electrical tape as required, then that little copper elbow (the most vulnerable spot) isn't left to the cold.
I saw where someone said to just use your internal tanks, to skip the hose, but I disagree. In this cold climate, dealing with filling tanks, and keeping the internal pump going whenever you need water, isn't worth it to me. The fill hose will freeze, unless you have someway to insure it's totally empty before putting it away, and it's generally a hassle to deal with.
Also be sure to wrap that hose well with foam pipe insulation, it's so cheap. This year, if I stayed another winter in mine, I had planned to build a sort of doghouse over the whole plumbing thing, over the hose and all, insulate it, and leave room for an electric heater on a low thermostat just in case.
By the way, I NEVER TURN OFF THE WATER ALL WINTER. I keep it flowing pretty well, that way no matter what else happens, it's ok. You get used to the white noise of it when you sleep. I don't want to replace any more pipe.
Good luck! Contact me if you're ever in Southwest CO!
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Old 09-28-2006, 09:27 AM   #20
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I found that opening all the cabinet doors at night helped to keep the inside warmer. We do this in the summer too due to heat build up.If you are in a really cold area..buy some thin bubble wrap like you wrap something for shipping..$3.00 at Sprawl-Mart.Double sided tape it to the back wall of the cabinets.I also made sure that the storage area under the bed was filled with stuff..less dead air space to get cold and layed a blanket of bubble wrap over the top of everything.The heated mattress pad was used ONLY to warm up the bed and then turned off once we were tucked in.
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Old 09-28-2006, 02:00 PM   #21
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I had the same trouble with my furnace, I took the pilot apart and the burner tip has about 500 tiny holes in it, when it is clean you can hold it up to a bright light or the sun and see them. Take it out of the furnace and soak it over night, then blow it out with high pressure air, blow the opposite way of the gas flow. I forget what I used but you can go to a auto parts store or rv dealer and tell them what you want to do. I never had any problem after that.
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Old 09-28-2006, 03:13 PM   #22
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I would strongly advise against putting hay, straw or any combustible material under a trailer. It's a fire hazard.
icedcacti, for lots of good tips on winter living in an Airstream, turn up the heat, kick back with your favorite beverage and read throught this lengthy thread:

http://www.airforums.com/forum...ving-2738.html
The hay also attracts 4 legged critters that like to nest, find small openings in your heated space and chow down on your leftovers.
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Old 09-28-2006, 03:38 PM   #23
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Hey...dont use hay!!!!! Bad deal.If you are in an RV park forget it.Their insurance will not abide with that one.If you research back to the beginning of Winter Living when we first set out to live in our A/S you will see what we used thru 2 winters.Putting a light under the Rv will help also.Be safe.
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Old 06-02-2010, 12:07 PM   #24
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HI

I love the Airstream forum, unfortunatly I do not have one, many years reading abaout heating, dead battery middle of the night...etc..... so...People...... listen to me: only sulution : wented wall furnace, used 1/3 of propane, no battery need to run , no noise furnace, all over europa we used it for ever... wee live in 2010 this furnace what you find in any trailer, i s100 years technology, think obout heated floor, I have it for $30.... and it,s make a big big diffferent

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Old 06-02-2010, 11:23 PM   #25
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Howdy from TEXAS!!! Zoli, please tell me more about your heated floors ....I have been searching for a way to heat the floors in "THE MONEY PIT" so that I might live more comfortably through some very cold Panhandle nights!

Thanks in advance for any information....

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Old 06-03-2010, 10:55 AM   #26
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HI!

Heated floor can B $ 4 thausand, or...$ 39.00/ her is a big secret: taka part a heating blanket, put under your laminate floor, and never gonna be cold feet again, it,s NOT gonna be hot, or too warm, but will not be cold... it, GFI protected, adjustable , top of that it,s take only 80watts.....so I did mine and its perfect, kids can run around bear feet, / of course, my rig is not 40 feet, and did not cost 2 million dollars))))/
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Old 08-22-2010, 12:22 PM   #27
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Excellent thought... I might just lay it on top of the flooring for temporary use if it's not too cold. I have been wanting to find a heated floor mat that is thin enough and long enough to use as a runner in our Sport 22. If we have electrical hookup, it would allow us to heat the trailer and have warm feet, no propane required! But the biggest issue is not being awoken by the furnace blower and igniter every time it kicks on...
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Old 08-22-2010, 12:28 PM   #28
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Oh! And another thought:

We always travel with our black lab. He is a seasoned (11 year old) hunting dog, and he sleeps and relaxes in a large crate which we have an insulated jacket for... However, we have been looking for a way to provide some gentle heat on colder nights now as he gets older, and the electric blanket may be a perfect solution.
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