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Old 10-21-2015, 01:50 PM   #1
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Frozen here, not there

Hi, we are leaving Wyoming in below zero nights and traveling to the East Coast, via I: 80, 29, 70, 64, 81, 64, staying in First Landing State Park, Va. At what point do you figure we can drain the antifreeze and put regular water back in the system? Maybe when we do not see below temps at night? If the day temps are well above freezing... 40's? Thanks, WyoGal

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Old 10-21-2015, 02:41 PM   #2
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Might depend a little on how you use it. I would go with your idea of daytime temps above freezing so it does not freeze while on the road if you sleep in it every night and run the propane furnace enough to keep it from freezing at night.

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Old 10-21-2015, 03:31 PM   #3
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When are you leaving? If in the next few weeks, I would put water in the trailer at home as long as you heat it with the furnace at night.
Unless the weather forecast is for 24 or more hours in the 20's, you will be o.k.
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Old 10-21-2015, 04:09 PM   #4
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Your questions may best be answered by at least one question:

How prepared are you to do a fast and nearly complete winterization if you hit sustained cold weather unexpectedly?

You will be going through some higher elevations, including the Appalachians near the end of your trip. A moving trailer loses heat quickly, especially the water and holding tanks.

What is your pace expected to be? If you have a known destination which is warmer, why not get across the country quickly and get set up in Virginia? The Fall can bring unpredictable weather everywhere on your route.

Lastly are you sure that First Landing SP VA does not also get freezing days and nights in November and later?

Sorry for all the questions but to these eyes they are necessary planning hurdles to to be jumped.

Have fun!

PS here is the November monthly forecast for that area:

Note the historical average lows for the end of the month are in the mid to low 30's, although the forecast lows for this November are higher.
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Old 10-21-2015, 04:56 PM   #5
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PS Evelyn, you might consider heading further south when you cross the Mississippi at St. Louis, hit Nashville, then take I-40 the rest of the way. For the few extra miles, you may avoid the colder weather on I-64, especially in the Appalachians. I-40 still takes you through Ashville NC (elevation ~2134' I think) but not as high as I-64 would get you.

What is the time frame for your trip?
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Old 10-22-2015, 11:57 AM   #6
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Frozen here, not there

Thanks for the November weather forecast.
We leave mid-next month, return early Dec.
We live at 7260' elevation & associated cold does phase us, usually.
We will take about three days to travel there and the same on return.
We will take into consideration traveling on a more southern route if the weather turns colder than we would like.

Thanks All,
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Old 10-23-2015, 08:18 AM   #7
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Below 32 temps is serious for RVers

Hi Evelyn,
I concur with what the other forum members have said in reply to your question. I've seen that you recently joined the forum, so welcome and I hope as a group we can provide some help and useful information.

I guess I wanted to be like a "Dutch Uncle" in regards advice on this subject. Mainly, I'm not sure the other posters pointed out how serious it is to use an RV in below freezing weather. We all want to encourage members to enjoy using their RV, as it is a large expense and why leave it sit all the time?

If you have water in your Airstream and it freezes, it could be bad. You can lose equipment or maybe the plumbing lines. In some cases, the trailer will need the walls opened up to make repairs. A big deal.

I have a Winnebago ONE trailer with an artic package which means the entire underside of the trailer is enclosed with a 5" thick engineered plastic insulation layer. The tanks are above that. However, the tanks are only heated when the furnace blows hot air into the area between the floor and the insulating layer. Much the same as the way Airstream tanks are heated.

If the fresh water, gray, and black tanks aren't totally full; freezing likely won't ruin them. Some parts of the drain system may be cracked if that happens. If the lines inside freeze, it could ruin the water pump or cause damage like previously mentioned. The sink or shower faucets could crack. Just bad, bad, bad. Camping in freezing weather is risky.

Airstreams are known in the industry as 3 season RVs. Spring, Summer, Fall. Actually, that term covers nearly all RVs. You can use AS in the winter, but you have to be careful and understand the technical aspects of what to do.

The trouble with a trailer is that it is "on its own" while being towed. The furnace may work but if it doesn't you won't know it. Unless you stop to check the temp inside the trailer. What a drag !

There's lots of other threads about how to "get away with" cold weather camping. Generally, frequent winterizing after each use, put antifreeze in the holding tanks & keep them nearly empty, keep heat on in the trailer...

Overall, the best advice is to go somewhere warm to camp !

Good luck and best wishes for safe travels.
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