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Old 12-06-2009, 10:30 AM   #1
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Evidence of global warming.

Extreme winter weather LOL. Photos taken Saturday a.m.. Some places south of us had over 2".
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Old 12-06-2009, 10:43 AM   #2
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On the other side..... I mowed our lawn last week. We live in Canada!
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Old 12-06-2009, 12:32 PM   #3
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Maybe it's a climate shift.
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Old 12-06-2009, 12:51 PM   #4
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The tectonic plates have shifted again and now North America is upside down. This will result in Canada's Yukon, NWT and Nunavut being tropical paradises. Floridians tired of the long winters will go to Hudson's Bay for relief. Palm trees will be growing along the MacKenzie River. Meanwhile, Mexicans will be shivering and we will be sending them coats Minnesotans no longer need. The Yucatán will be over the North Pole soon and Santa will wear a Mariachi outfit. Ski Mississippi!

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Old 12-06-2009, 01:22 PM   #5
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Houston and Beaumont both had snow. Even in North Texas "winter" generally does not arrive until New Years. 40F is about the coldest one expects, overall, down here near the coast.
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Old 12-06-2009, 06:30 PM   #6
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Maybe that 2012 stuff about the polar shift IS happening !

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Your post was perfect!!
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Old 12-06-2009, 07:08 PM   #7
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Global Warming??? . . .

. . . seems to me more like "Global Weirding!"
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Old 12-06-2009, 10:08 PM   #8
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Strange stuff......
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It does seem strange that global warming could result in colder temps, but that's really just part of it. The warming part is so slight that you probably wouldn't notice it on your skin on a day-to-day basis. The main effect of this part of the story is the melting of ice in locations where it wouldn't melt before.

However, the other part of the story is the alteration of predictable weather patterns. This most recent storm, for example, came in from the northwest, as you'd expect, and was cold, also as expected. Then came the exceptional part, as predicted in some global-warming scenarios: It dropped all the way down into northern Mexico and then moved east. As a low pressure system, it pumped lots of moisure into the US area. The end result: Snow in southern regions.


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The thing that is hard to grasp about global warming is that the melting of the polar caps disrupts the Gulf Stream, and the "Atlantic Ocean Pump", which drives our weather, and makes North America cooler and rainier, moderating some of the hot summers and warm winters, and further south, makes it hotter and drier, making tropical moisture disappear. So global warming makes new weather patterns all over, and snow in Mississippi. It has been at least 10 years since we had a really good snowstorm in Missouri, but in recent years we get winter rains and lots of ice. Our agriculture zone is changing, and armadillos are as far north as Nebraska and roadrunners are seen in Missouri. I can grow zone 8 plants here that I couldn't grow just a few years ago.
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We do question!

The main effect of this part of the story is the melting of ice in locations where it wouldn't melt before.


It would seems that our knowledge of the polar regions
is too limited to know this for certain. Less than 100 years
of recorded data hardly seems enough data to reach
this conclusion. We know that trends in the short-term
do not necessarily led to absolute conclusions in the long term.

Quote: "If you don't know what will happen, how can you say
when it will happen".
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In the past few years we are seeing insects here we never saw before. For the past several decades, snowmelt at high altitude in Colorado has been happening earlier and earlier. That snow stores water for later use, but if it melts early, it disappears too fast leaving aquifers unfilled and rivers drier than ever by late summer. Reoccurring droughts are weakening tree sap production allowing beetles to bore into trees and kill them—many, many trees are being lost to extreme beetle infestation unknown before the last few decades. In normal years the sap encapsulates the beetles and kills them; no precipitation, very little sap.

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I think you can "blame Canada" for this latest bout of chill. Here's the view of the Calgary skyline outside from my office this morning - somewhere near -30ish I think. Tomorrow they're calling for -42 higher up in the mountains. Doesn't matter what system you use F or C, that's a chilly day!

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By taking ice cores in Greenland, weather patterns and CO2 in the atmosphere can be determined for 10's of thousands of years in the past.

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