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Old 12-16-2005, 09:14 AM   #15
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Up until we purchased our Airstream we used to tent camp. Yes, even in the winter, the coldest I ever did was about -8F Burrr. Sooo we see it as a treat to be able to have heat in the Airstream... We winterize the water system in the winter and have a porta potty for the late nite and stay in campgrounds with bathrooms (hopefully heated). We also carry a collapsible 5 gallon water jug and spring water for cooking / cleaning. I hope to get out at least a couple of times this winter if we have time.
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Old 12-16-2005, 10:01 AM   #16
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When you're traveling down the highway and it's freezing or below......do you keep your propane heater going inside the AS to prevent the water/grey/black tanks from freezing? If so, what temperature setting do you use. I'm considering a trip to Yosemite this winter....our first winter trip (maybe I'm crazy!)! I understand that I need to keep the tanks warm when I get to the CG......but wondering what people do on the road (if anything).

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We do a fair amount of winter traveling. My son and I have just returned from Canton, OH and a visit to the Hall of Fame. The temps were below freezing the entire time. Keep your furnace off when driving, please! Keep your tanks empty. Pour in some anti-freeze it is cheap and it you have to use the toilet while driving flush with anti-freeze, use waterless hand cleaner. There are heat strips for the tanks but I have not heard great things about them. When you hook up for the night keep the water dripping or wrap the inlet with a heat strip. make certain you you flush your tanks well before you start off again and pour some anti-freeze down them again. Don't forget about your traps if they are outside and could freeze, fill them with anti-freeze each day. Try using an electric heater instead of your furnace at night. We use one heater to heat our 28' MH and it stays comfortable. Winter camping takes a little more care but has its rewards, there are less crowds and it is quieter.
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Old 12-17-2005, 02:44 PM   #17
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When you hook up for the night keep the water dripping.
One tip for eliminating the drip-drip sound is: Tear off a piece of aluminum foil at least as long as the distance between the end of the faucet and the bottom of the sink. Wrap one end of the foil around the faucet nozzle and create a tube or slide for the dripping water. . . silence.
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Old 12-17-2005, 06:29 PM   #18
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Question If I use the foil for the sink what will I use for my hat?

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One tip for eliminating the drip-drip sound is: Tear off a piece of aluminum foil at least as long as the distance between the end of the faucet and the bottom of the sink. Wrap one end of the foil around the faucet nozzle and create a tube or slide for the dripping water. . . silence.
I'm not sure I can safely make alterations to my hat, please see the authority cited below.
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Old 12-18-2005, 09:48 AM   #21
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The drip-drip approach has to be used with caution! Just take a drive up in these parts in the winter and note all of those frozen-solid mountain streams that were moving fairly briskly before they froze.


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Growing up in east Texas (Bryan-College Station -- 100 miles north of Houston) I recall a cold snap with one night in the upper teens. Outside dripping faucets developed a stalagmite that grew up and froze the faucets tight. A neighbor's house had a pipe in the ceiling break and flood the room below (houses built on slabs without frost footings and pipes are often overhead -- it's great drinking hot water in the summer!). You pays your money, you takes your chances. The ducted heat will protect only for pretty minimal freeze-ups. You can't beat a fully winterized trailer. Note that Chaplain Kent is using a motorhome...

You must pay attention to how darned aggressive salt is for aluminum. I think dmac once complained about the great issues he had over pitting on aluminum wheels for his newer trailer (I can't say salt was that issue, but you know what I mean). And we know not to trust clearcoat too far. There is very little you can do about such corrosion except follow the Harley rule -- wait until after the first heavy spring rain.

I want to see some replies on what the best antisway for ice and snow might be. Please write that rationalization down so you'll have the explanation at hand if you want to sound coherent to your insurance company .....

If you do snowbird, tow a winterized trailer under VFR rules only; ie, only when you can see the sun across dry roads. ... and hit a truck carwash as soon as you are at your destination.
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The drip-drip approach has to be used with caution! Just take a drive up in these parts in the winter and note all of those frozen-solid mountain streams that were moving fairly briskly before they froze.
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The water drip method is used while the coach is occupied, so as to keep the city inlet water line from freezing. If you have to worry about water freezing INSIDE the coach, you have other issues. - Roy
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Old 12-18-2005, 09:57 PM   #24
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The water drip method is used while the coach is occupied, so as to keep the city inlet water line from freezing. If you have to worry about water freezing INSIDE the coach, you have other issues. - Roy
Yep, I know it! Alas, when it gets really cold, even the slowly moving water in the inlet water line is going to freeze solid. Of course, that's Angel Fire cold, not warm-country cold ...

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don, of donmar (airstream dealer in sc) advises okay to travel without heat to outside temps of 20 degrees (movement of trailer/water, keeps water from freezing. anything below calls for heat.
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Old 01-03-2006, 08:49 AM   #26
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hello all,

Is there any efficient ways to keep the water lines from freezing, special wrapping or new fangled products. I mean while you are actually hooked up to CITY WATER.

Surrounding the base of the RV is not an Option as the problem is when we go south for XMAS, Nebraska to LA

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Old 01-03-2006, 12:51 PM   #27
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Winterized camping....

Hi all -

Just got back from New Years in Carlsbad NM. The Caverns are super COOL but the best side trip, by far!, was to Sitting Bull Falls. Had a 5 mile hike to the spring that is the origin (in the MIDDLE of the DESERT!) that feeds the 150ft high water fall. Then spent an hour climbing all over the spillway at the bottom of the falls - WAY AWESOME!

Anyway, we pulled the winteized trailer down and had a simply terrific visit. Used the 5 gallon jugs of water for fresh water in the trailer - including cooking. Used the bathrooms, showers and dish washing facilities at Carlsbad RV Park and Campground. Worked great.

Also used 'oil filled' electric heaters - one front and one rear. Worked great. Terrific soft, warm, consistant heat. There were 2 units, SOB's, that had water lines freeze up. One had a interior line split in his commode. Saw another water fall there - right out the door of the RV. NICE one too - "SeeYa GOLD" according to the numerous signage all over the unit. BIG class A with a seriously pissed owner.

I know that they had heat on in the unit since the owner was running around loudly claiming that his heat should have prevented what happened. Poor guy.

To me the added problem of worrying about the pipes, tanks and etc... outweigh the minor inconvenience of getting out of the trailer to the potty, or with dishes. Not to mention that the propane those furnaces use is not insubstantial, they are usually noisy, not terribly effective, and blow hot/cold, the electric heaters simply use the electric you are already pluged into - hey its paid for!

If there is even the least chance that there is a possibility of a freeze, I will be using the winterized trailer. There was NO downside to the way we used it and several upsides. Peace of mind, and NO waterfalls.

I am sure that a waterfall coming out of an AirStream anywhere would be noteworthy in the SOB sonversations!!! Not my trailer.

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Just wondering what brand / type of electric heaters you were using. Thanks.
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