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Old 10-01-2012, 01:11 PM   #1
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Alaska Winter in my 1968 Streamline Empress

In the name of science, this is my offical Alaska tin can living thread. The snow is here.

I am AMAZED at how $30 worth of foil sided bubble insulation can do. No woodstove installed yet, just a Mr. Heater Catalytic Heater. So far, it got down to the 20's and all is good (no freezing). Luckily, it will warm up again to give me a little more time to properly winterize before the real cold happens.
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Old 10-01-2012, 02:22 PM   #2
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Good luck to you. I've spent many winters in AK but never one in the can.
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Old 10-01-2012, 02:39 PM   #3
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That is just painful to look at. You are a better man/woman than I am. Good Luck
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Old 10-01-2012, 03:00 PM   #4
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HOLY CRAP! Man/Woman - I'd do it too AFTER I built a garage or shed!

Prarie survival - hay bale building!

HAY Bales stacked 9 Feet high on one side - 14-15 feet on the other - slant walls on front/rear end - leave 3 feet distance between Streamline and hay on all sides - make rafters for roof, lay 1" x 6" lathe at a 90 degree angle from rafters, leave 1/4" gap between lathes & allow heat from furnace, etc to melt snow buildup via lathe gaps.

Small igloo door in, about 3 penetrating "windows" (6" pvc pipe) to allow for more air circulation ....furnace pipe out top to carry off carbon monoxide.

ANY KIND of second layer shelter would help though in Alaska you have to pitch the roof to dump snow or risk collapse - even without a roof, shield walls to break the wind would help. With your current setup, be prepared to clean snow off frequently - even every two hours in blizzard conditions.

Good luck, be CAREFUL. Paula

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Old 10-01-2012, 06:08 PM   #5
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In the name of science, this is my offical Alaska tin can living thread. The snow is here.

I am AMAZED at how $30 worth of foil sided bubble insulation can do. No woodstove installed yet, just a Mr. Heater Catalytic Heater. So far, it got down to the 20's and all is good (no freezing). Luckily, it will warm up again to give me a little more time to properly winterize before the real cold happens.
"In the name of science" you are conducting quite an experiment - you are going to learn a lot - and I'm sure some of it the hard way .... you don't say if you've lived through an Alaskan winter before - but I can tell you that minus 40 degrees is not camping weather - and I live a long way south of Alaska .....

A secondary structure is a great suggestion for mitigating the serious cold - but make sure you consider how to safely vent your propane appliances to outside that structure - and also to vent the air in your trailer - you will want to invest in more than 1 carbon monoxide detector .....

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Old 10-01-2012, 09:57 PM   #6
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I hope you have a warm sleeping bag.
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Old 10-02-2012, 11:40 AM   #7
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For the record: I am a native Coloradan and I have wintered in AK with wood only heat in a dry, should have been condemned cabin (last year) with record snow. The streamline has seen many Alaskan winters without any care, so we both have a resume. Also, the science thing is a joke. This really is an upgrade from my cabin of last year.

I noticed there is a lot of discouragement against trailer/ tin can wintering on here, so this is my effort to show the opposite for those thinking about full timing. After asking around, there are many folks living in campers/ trailers/ rvs year round up here, even without wood stoves. I was really surprised to see discouraging posts about full timing through winter in much milder climates. If it can be done up here, anywhere in the lower 48 should be easy. Yes, it is a different lifestyle than someone in the suburbs in a McMansion, but, by no means is it impossible.

I love taking pictures, so expect picture updates!
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I have just subscribed to this thread to keep up with your winter experiences. Whereabouts is your trailer. And what do you do in the winter?
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Old 10-02-2012, 11:57 AM   #9
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Here in Fairbanks we say Anchorage is only 15 minutes from Alaska by Super Cub.

In all seriousness keep up the photos, looking forward to hearing how it is going.
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Get a wooden stick-built mud room thrown together as a porch & airlock - at the least it will keep you from tracking additional sources of humidity into the eggshell and give you a storage locker for winter wear.

Keep the door gaskets well siliconed, the last thing you want is ice welding it shut. Some of the photos of frozen waterfalls of ice dripping off windows and window frames from humidity freezing out were impressive...

I'd bet 50% of your heat loss will be through the ceiling, with another 25% from the windows/frames. I haven't, but always wanted to try, inexpensive mexican horse blankets either tacked loosely to the ceiling or hung as a false ceiling to help stall heat loss and slow down drafts. The two missteps I see of doing that is the added fire hazard & hidden condensation.

That hair-drier-plastic-shrink-film inner storm windows on a 1/2" or 3/4" strip foam standoff rings around the windows would definitely pay for itself, if not just by the joy of tearing the stinking things down one at a time as Spring weather starts coming on strong.
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Old 10-02-2012, 12:49 PM   #11
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There have been a few threads journaling life over winter in an RV and they have been fascinating. There was a couple who spent the winter in Vermont with a small yacht wood stove and solar power. That was a fun story to follow and they did great.

A lot of us dream of selling the house and moving into the trailer, so we'll be eagerly following your thread.
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Old 10-02-2012, 01:33 PM   #12
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I always love seeing these posts,

I often think that if life gets too tough for me I could always escape and go live in the trailer. All the Stuff I have around me is really just adding stress for no good reason. What a great experience to survive with so little space and stuff in such an extreme climate!
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Old 10-02-2012, 01:51 PM   #13
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Keep the door gaskets well siliconed, the last thing you want is ice welding it shut.
I had issues with this in the cabin, it could only be worse in the trailer, good call!

I am just outside Anchorage, at about 1,000 ft above sea level. The streamline has already survived 4 100+ mph wind storms in this spot. I work full time in Anchorage.

Windows I think are the biggest concern. I have made foil bubble wrap covers for the dark times, and I have some other ideas for further instation with the clear insulation in addition to the bubble foil. The woodstove should really bring down the humidity, as well just the temperture as it gets colder. Once January comes around and it is -20, there isn't a lot of moisture. I wintered in a 18' 'regular' trailer in Colorado at 8,000 ft, I didn't do any insulation besides straw bale skirting, and I don't remember much of a condensation issue, but it was cold! Right now there is condensation, but it is just annoying, not a major issue.

The woodstove I bought is coal approved, so I should be able to keep it going at all times. The miners made it through winter in tents with coal!
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Love it Streamline! We are full timing as well here in Colorado! We had a pretty wicked wind storm last night and came through just fine! Love to see your pics and see your progress. We are also having concerns with windows, doors, and other heat loss areas. Have ordered all new window and door seals already and am planning on hay bale skirting soon. Would love to swap ideas and stories!
ps. my parents live in Tok and work in Fairbanks!
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