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Old 01-26-2003, 02:43 PM   #1
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Pergo or ? instead of carpet

Having two pets (cat and dog) we can see that keeping the beige carpet clean is going to be a real challenge.

Has anyone replaced the carpet with a solid surface...something like Pergo? If so, what is the underlayment? Will I find particle board or plywood?

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Old 01-26-2003, 02:46 PM   #2
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Underlayment

is 5/8" marine-grade plywood in current trailers.
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Old 01-26-2003, 02:50 PM   #3
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Thank you, John....was hoping you or someone knew. I guess I will have to take out the couch....if I do this. Should I try to remove the credenza? (so I can put the wood stuff under it) We were thinking of leaving the bedroom carpeted.

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pergo flooring

some one posted pictures for a pergo floor he put in and it looked great. i giving serious thought to doing from the galley back in my mh , that would include the bath room and bed room . we have a dobie and i was wandering how that would work for the dog. she doesnt move around much when we are under way . if she got on the pergo might have a problems standing up.
i looked at the pergo that has the backe already applied to the dack . $4 per ft and armstrong at $2 per ft. the armstrong has to have a backer applied to the floor before putting the floor down. it is going to be fun doing the cut outs. lol post on your progress
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Old 01-26-2003, 04:29 PM   #5
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This has been covered under the "Interior Restoration" forum, subhead "floor repairs". It is a great way to go. Take a look at http://www.airforums.com/forum...b&threadid=815

and http://www.airforums.com/forum...&threadid=1455

Two or three points: While you need to leave room for expansion, you need very little side to side across the trailer as the room size is so small. Say half of what is usually recommended. And as a practical matter, you need NO expansion space in the front of the trailer as the floor will shift to the front anyway (floating floor, remember). If I was to do mine again I would run the planks across the longitudinal axis (crossways) due to the tendency of the floor to shift forwards.

Do not underestimate the time involved. There are lots of dividers and corners, and the occasional curve.

Finally, I recommend vinyl for the bath, as Pergo type products are not actually waterproof.

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More info on how to make the pergo/carpet transition last.
Partial floor change
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'Pergo" type flooring is derfinitely the way to go if you have pets.We have two Bouvier dogs who are sand and dirt magnets,and who camps on concrete??We also put some down in a room at home and had 4 puppies 'watering' it for 2 months with no damage at all.The advice to go with vinyl in the bathroom is good from the perspective that it is probably much easier to install around fixtures.I stopped my laminate at the bath for that reason only.
My only other advice-stay away from the close-outs on the glue-together older technology.You can get them for as low as $ 0.50/ft and that's what I used,but the newer'snap together' stuff is miles easier to install and looks much nicer.The only carpet we carry is a piece for outside the door!
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Like I have said before, I don't know what I would do without advice from you all. I guess I would make more mistakes.

Due to the fact that we haven't really been anywhere and don't plan on going until May (North) we will probably wait until September for this project.

Our bathroom has some sort of plastic tile in it; the remainder of the trailer is carpeted. I like the idea of going across the trailer instead of front to back with the Pergo AND your trim strips look great.

It is really a BIG decision here to decide to take out new carpet BUT forest dirt/needles is not fun to keep off the carpet. IF we had custom ordered our Airstream instead of buying a leftover on the lot would we have been able to get vinyl or fake wood floor?

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leaks vs pergo type flooring

I too, as many of you apparently have as well, am considering a Pergo type composite floating floor for my AS. I bought a video on installation and there is a lot of emphasis put on the fact that the underlayment must be dry and level. I was wondering if anyone had run into any problems with either of these two issues which were serious enough to warrant rethinking the project. Or better yet, how did you solve the problem? I realize the leak issue is self-explanatory but it seems like they can crop up at any time and perhaps ruin a perfectly good project. I thank you all in advance.
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Kistler,
When we ordered our 96' 30' trailer we optioned for the wood floor in the galley area. The floor installed by the factory was a Bruce Hard Wood floor based on the maintance information included with the owners manual. I did see a trailer at an A/S dealer in Ohio which had the floor through out the entire trailer including the bath area.
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Re: leaks vs pergo type flooring

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......... I bought a video on installation and there is a lot of emphasis put on the fact that the underlayment must be dry and level.....
The floor in my 79 was not level in some places and I solved the problem by 'floating' it with automotive bondo.
Leaks are always a problem and even more so with a pergo style flooring. Buy a few extra square feet for future repairs.
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leaks & floating floors

Creates quite a visual doesn't it? I was just discussing this issue with a patient of mine who insists that the products which require gluing as opposed to snapping together stand up to water a lot better.Anyone have thoughts or expertise? My motivation for this exercise was the convienence of snap together but if what this person told me is true then maybe the extra effort is worth it to stand up to the inevitable leaks etc.
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Laminate floors will not curl up because you splash a bit of water on them. Where they have problems is in baths where water is allowed to drip down between the cracks several times a day, day after day, or in basements that leak from time to time. Even then they will frequently lay back down after they dry out.

Of course, in our case we also have the worry of a leak down the wall.

My concern about the glue down floor is its permanency. I do not know about yours, but my 25' Sovereign could require the removal of some floor pieces for certain major repairs. Maybe that will not be necessary, but I thought it best to be prepared. To the point that I am the only person in history to install the quarter round with brass screws.

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Creates quite a visual doesn't it? I was just discussing this issue with a patient of mine who insists that the products which require gluing as opposed to snapping together stand up to water a lot better..............
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Yes Brouck, from a technical point the glued together pergo style floor will be more watertight from the surface than the snap together. However, the real damage to the floor will come from water that gets under the floor, in which case the snap together type floor would be easier to repair.
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