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jmd5602 · 05-28-2007, 10:24 AM

We just picked up our Classic 31' - an '05. It's new and has beige vinyl floors and beige carpeting (yuck!). We really don't like the flooring and we're going to be full time for a year with a 5 yr. old child so I was thinking of installing a floating pergo floor over the vinyl flooring and just coping with the carpeting. Can we install the pergo right over the vinyl and then take it out after a year?

We're planning on selling at the end of our trip (though already we seemed to have gotten attached to having it permanently), so we thought it might be important to be able to return it to as close to original condition as possible for sale.

Any advice appreciated ....

-jane

**moosetags** · 05-28-2007, 10:36 AM

We have an '05 25FB with that same flooring arrangement. We didn't like the flooring either. but decided to try some rugs first. We got a couple of rugs at Home Depot and this works very well for us. We are not full timing, but we have spent over 120 nights in Lucy in the past year. We also put our bath mats over the bedroom carpet unless we are using them to shower. This gives us a place to store them, and keeps the cheap tan carpet new looking. I've included a couple of photos of the rugs in place.

ScottW · 05-28-2007, 12:26 PM

Had a 06 25'FB. We went to Home Depot and bought a silver/grey runner that fit perfectly down the hall. Ran it from the wall under the dinette to slightly over the carpet in the BR. Only about $45. Worked out nice. Unfortunately it won't fit our new AS.

LI Pets · 05-28-2007, 12:37 PM

Sure you can put the pergo on top, it's just the edges that need a 1/4" space to float. this will show without moulding??

31airstream · 06-12-2007, 05:58 PM

what about the weight of the floors does this affect anything? or the heat?

LI Pets · 06-12-2007, 06:06 PM

Pergo type floors are under 100Lbs, no issue

Fyrzowt · 06-12-2007, 06:15 PM

The PO put laminate (not Pergo brand) in ours, we love it. It's not as warm to the touch as carpet, but looks much better and is easier to clean without a vacuum. I wouldn't worry about removing it prior to sale, it will probably show better with it in there.
Dave

guy99 · 06-12-2007, 06:49 PM

I would wonder whether the original flooring would end up getting abraded by the Pergo as the Pergo 'floats'. Also you need a 1/4 inch gap all around, you need some trim to cove this. the extra height could cause trouble if you need to remove an appliance (depending on whether you have room to lift it over the 'lip' created by the new flooring.

Silvertwinkie · 06-12-2007, 08:03 PM

I love the flooring, mostly the vinyl. With a youngin', vinyl will hold up better than the carpeting. Also, keep in mind that if your unit doesn't have the upgraded axles (you can typically tell if the unit has disc brakes and a higher front rock guard, it's usually got the upgraded axles) that you should weigh what you put in and deduct that from your NCC as the older units that didn't come with the upgraded axles didn't have a lot of NCC to start with......

Normally, I wouldn't mention this, but with 28 to 31 feet of pergo, it can add some weight.

jmd5602 · 07-05-2007, 02:46 PM

We have _plenty_ of headroom in or NCC.

Actually we didn't really notice what a difference there was as we were mostly looking at GVWR, but one of many reasons we went w/ the classic though we liked decor of International much better. Definetly don't want carpeting. I think we've decided on Marmoleum 'click', adds about 4mm which docks well w/ carpet, durable, not too hard and looks cool. We'll post pics when we install it.

-Miles
(Jane's worse half)

jmd5602 · 07-05-2007, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by moosetags

We have an '05 25FB with that same flooring arrangement. We didn't like the flooring either. but decided to try some rugs first. We got a couple of rugs at Home Depot and this works very well for us. We are not full timing, but we have spent over 120 nights in Lucy in the past year. We also put our bath mats over the bedroom carpet unless we are using them to shower. This gives us a place to store them, and keeps the cheap tan carpet new looking. I've included a couple of photos of the rugs in place.

Makes a big difference..your floors are much better to start though..the Safari's have a nice design. We have some kind of fake looking beigy terrazo tile pattern. This is all so subjective I suppose.

**azflycaster** · 07-05-2007, 02:50 PM

When I installed Pergo in my house, it came to almost 2 pounds per square foot.

jmd5602 · 07-05-2007, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by guy99

I would wonder whether the original flooring would end up getting abraded by the Pergo as the Pergo 'floats'. Also you need a 1/4 inch gap all around, you need some trim to cove this. the extra height could cause trouble if you need to remove an appliance (depending on whether you have room to lift it over the 'lip' created by the new flooring.

On sides too you think? We certainly need something lengthwise for carpet at both ends. (We aren't about to get into replacing the original carpet as to do that right you'd ahve to rip out all of the vinyl as well.) We're assuming that we will need to put in the typical underfloor whatsit, which may end up protecting the vinyl I hope..again I would hope that it ends up looking nice enough that new owner's prefer it, but then again some people really want stock.

jmd5602 · 07-05-2007, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by azflycaster

When I installed Pergo in my house, it came to almost 2 pounds per square foot.

Yeah, the click felt about 1.5 or so..w/ 90 sq.ft. to cover that comes to 150 lbs +-.

2airishuman · 07-05-2007, 04:42 PM

hi jmd' and welcome to the forums...

the only thing under the carpet/pad is plywood...

and it's only attached at the edges,

same with the vinyl, only attached at the edges.

so you've already got a floating floor!

i agree the carpet is not a great choice, so i had mine built without it.

full vinyl front to back. it isn't a pretty vinyl but it is light and durable.

i don't think you'll gain much (except a different look) by floating another layer over the vinyl.

and it will cause a strange wear pattern on the current vinyl.

i use a variety of throw rugs that can be rolled up, removed and washed.

unless you really wanna remove the full interior and do wall2wall something....

and really it isn't that hard to remove the sofa, dinette and bed box to lay a complete flooring.

i'd make good with throws and mats...

cheers
2air'

craftsman · 07-05-2007, 05:37 PM

I wish that I had asked Airstream to install the wood look vinyl throughout my 25" Classic. This is from someone that works with pretty nice hardwoods everyday. It's the most practical thing for the floors of an Airstream. I have carpet in the bedroom and living area and viny in the kitchen and bath. Still everything has to be covered in area rugs.

jmd5602 · 07-06-2007, 07:32 AM

On our classic it appears that the vinyl runs well under the wardroab and other pieces so I do worr that ripping it out and potentially reinstalling would be a fairly big deal. Anyone done this on more recent classics?

2airishuman · 07-06-2007, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by jmd5602

...it appears that the vinyl runs well under the wardroab and other pieces...

the flooring is the first 'interior' item installed.

it runs all the way to the perimeter walls.

with cut outs for tanks holes and the wheel wells.

in your case, carpet to the edges fore/aft and vinyl midship.

it is primarily attached only at the edges and seams...

the complete interior 'floats' over the flooring.

cheers
2air'

jmd5602 · 07-09-2007, 12:06 PM

I made a Q&D flythrough -- we'll see how it looks IRL...

FilmGuy · 04-05-2008, 09:10 AM

We bought a 2001 Bambi a few years ago that came with a truly awful pale blue carpet--not the best idea for camping. I took the carpet out and installed a floating cork floor. It's just the best! It's warm to the touch and has a little give to it, so it's not hard like vinyl--feels great under bare feet. And cork is naturally mildew resistant. We love it!

David