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Old 09-07-2005, 08:08 PM   #1
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Marmoleum?

While I was up at my restoration guy's place yesterday, I discussed nixing the idea of carpeting front to rear, instead laying down some kind of vinyl flooring in the galley....kids and Kool Aid don't mix...we learned that in our Sunline. I decided to go with Marmoleum, product number 810 "Flax"....anyone ever do Marmoleum in their trailer and, if so, did you have good results with it?

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Old 09-07-2005, 08:12 PM   #2
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While I was up at my restoration guy's place yesterday, I discussed nixing the idea of carpeting front to rear, instead laying down some kind of vinyl flooring in the galley....kids and Kool Aid don't mix...we learned that in our Sunline. I decided to go with Marmoleum, product number 810 "Flax"....anyone ever do Marmoleum in their trailer and, if so, did you have good results with it?

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Craig Dorsey of Vintage Vacations uses Marmorleum quite a bit in his restorations, not only for the floor but also table tops and back splashes. I believe that you need to have it professionally installed, since the seams must be heat welded with special equipment and since it comes 3 meters wide there will be seams. It is a great floor and we will use it or a similar product in our Liner.

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Old 09-07-2005, 08:12 PM   #3
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Yes, we put it in our 68 Caravel, and I know other Forum members have as well. We are very happy with it. It's durable, attractive, easy to clean, etc. The only issue is cost. It is quite a bit more expensive than vinyl or laminate.
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Yes, we put it in our 68 Caravel, and I know other Forum members have as well. We are very happy with it. It's durable, attractive, easy to clean, etc. The only issue is cost. It is quite a bit more expensive than vinyl or laminate.
Yes, it is expensive, but the color goes all the way through the product, so it does not show wear, not just on the top like other sheet goods.

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The samples my resto guy showed me said that they come in 12"x12"....was this wrong? And just how much more expensive are we talking about? Is the product worth the price, in terms of longevity?

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It comes in sheets and tiles. Some colors are only available in sheets. When we finally decided on a color, it was out of stock. They told us it would take months to get it in. So we went with Armstrong Industrial tiles (I'm not sure of the product name). It looks very similar to Marmoleum but its half the price. And Lowe's had it to us in 3 days and would not charge us for a return if we didn't like the color.

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Old 09-07-2005, 08:30 PM   #7
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The samples my resto guy showed me said that they come in 12"x12"....was this wrong? And just how much more expensive are we talking about? Is the product worth the price, in terms of longevity?

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Opps, I forgot, it also comes in tiles in addition to the 2 meter (not 3 meter) sheets. Don't know what you do about the joints however, since I thought the seams needed to be welded.

As far as longevity, the Marmoleum will probably out live you.

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Old 09-07-2005, 08:37 PM   #8
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So Bill, is it worth the price, or am I better off going the Armstrong Industrial Tile route?

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Old 09-07-2005, 09:08 PM   #9
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I'm going with the Marmoleum when I get to that phase, actually I may not go with "Marmoleum" but I will go with a Linoleum product (which Marmoleum is). Some will say that you need to go with the tile so you can put the seams aligned with the Plywood seams underneath or else it will tear/crack . . . others say they aren't having problems. I personally want the sheet product - no seams (or at least a minimum amount of seams. I figure I'm going to have one seam about 18" from one edge of the trailer the full lenght, and that seam will be under cabinet, booth seating, bathroom . . . so basically it will be seamless. And they do make a Linoleum/Marmoleum tile as well as the 2 meter wide rolls. Good Luck.
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Thanks for the input....my resto guy said he was going to lay, I think he said backerboard, down over the plywood, before laying down the Marmoleum. I guess the surface needs to be rigid, or the Marmoleum will crack like regular tile, eh?

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Old 09-07-2005, 11:24 PM   #11
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So Bill, is it worth the price, or am I better off going the Armstrong Industrial Tile route?

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Frederic,

I do not know the difference in price. We recently installed a linoleum type product in our home kitchen as it had the look my wife wanted. Part of using linoleum is the look and part is the durability. If you put it under all of your cabinets, as we are planning, you don't want to do it again.

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Old 09-08-2005, 12:18 AM   #12
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Marmoleum in a new form

I saw some home renovation special on TV where there was a commercial for Marmoleum snap down tiles. They were 2 ft x 1 ft, already backed with MDF or something similar, and they snapped together like Pergo or other wood veneer products. Looked easy and quick - and probably flexible enough to use on a trailer floor. Check your local flooring store, I haven't seen it on the internet yet.

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Thanks for the input....my resto guy said he was going to lay, I think he said backerboard, down over the plywood, before laying down the Marmoleum. I guess the surface needs to be rigid, or the Marmoleum will crack like regular tile, eh?
That doesn't sound right. Marmoleum has enough flex to be installed over the solid plywood floor you already have. It should not crack, assuming you've got a good sound floor. (If you don't, you need to address that problem before even thinking about Marmoleum.) Another layer of backerboard is unnecessary and will add weight and considerable labor expense. I'd double-check.
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Old 09-08-2005, 09:26 AM   #14
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I used the Marmoleum in our Caravel. I belt sanded the plywood, used floor patch to even out the seams and any holes then laid the Marmoleum. I only glued the edge at the door opening to keep any water from getting in. I figured if the sheet wasn't glued down it any flexing of the floor would not be transferred through the sheet goods. Also, if anyone ever wanted to change to a different pattern or color it would be easy to remove and replace. It's been down since November with no issues. It's great stuff.
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