Are you folks treating your plywood with anything before putting down flooring? Mine seems to be in excellent shape, but I did have a flood in the bathroom, when a leak fixed by the PO, went bad. No signs of rot, and I want to keep it that way.
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Are you folks treating your plywood with anything before putting down flooring? Mine seems to be in excellent shape, but I did have a flood in the bathroom, when a leak fixed by the PO, went bad. No signs of rot, and I want to keep it that way.
I used a clear penetrating epoxy sealer that soaks in yet doesn't form a hard plastic layer over the wood. It also will concentrate in areas that might be iffy and harden them up and keep moisture from seeking out the areas that are softer. I paid special attention getting the sealer around and exposed edges like where plumbing came through the floor.
I've treated wood like this in my wooden boats and it really limits the ability of the wood to absorb moisture.
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That doesn't sound right. Marmoleum has enough flex to be installed over the solid plywood floor you already have. It should not crack, assuming you've got a good sound floor. (If you don't, you need to address that problem before even thinking about Marmoleum.) Another layer of backerboard is unnecessary and will add weight and considerable labor expense. I'd double-check.
I suspect the installer's concern is a perfectly smooth base, rather than rigidity. The base needs to be completely smooth, or it will "telegraph through" the Marmoleum.
We have the Marmoleum sheet flooring, and are very happy with the result. Was pricey -- about $700 installed. We chose the color called "Donkey Island." Looks good w/ the darker wood interior. Also, it's fun to say.
Donkey Island is a pretty fun name to say....I went with the #810 Flax, to compliment the Atlantic Blue carpet I'm also having installed. I want to keep the interior of the rig as light as possible, because of the cabinets. I also decided to go with James Ambruso's Adamo White cloth for the drapes. The interior will have a semi-nautical look, when it's finished.
I saw some home renovation special on TV where there was a commercial for Marmoleum snap down tiles. They were 2 ft x 1 ft, already backed with MDF or something similar, and they snapped together like Pergo or other wood veneer products. Looked easy and quick - and probably flexible enough to use on a trailer floor. Check your local flooring store, I haven't seen it on the internet yet.
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I've been looking at the Marmoleum Click on Forbos Website http://www.themarmoleumstore.com/fra...nu_id=29&ssm=1 It lools like it'd be a pretty easy install and there's no glue so it wouldn't be too hard to change it down the road if you wanted/needed to. I've found a website that's selling it for around $5.80 a sq ft for the 12x12, it also comes in 12x36 planks for under $5 a sq ft. It has a cork bottom layer. Has anyone done this install? do you have any photos? I still have to figure out how much square footage I need for our trailerl
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We've had our sheet Marmoleum installed (glue down) for 5 years now...still looks good, no cracking, splitting, bubbling, etc. Travelled about 20,000 miles to date, down all kinds of roads & off-road.
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I know all about Marmoleum. We had it installed in a couple of our bathrooms complete with inlays. After a year it failed because we used an installer who wasn't forbo certified, didn't use the right cement and didn't use a 100 pound roller. There were pockets that came up in different areas and there was no way to lift it and recement it with out destroying it. We had to have it all torn up and redone. I imagine tiles would be easier to repair. I saw a web price on the tiles of about $6 a sq foot.
One important thing to do is seal it with Marmoleum sealer. It's porus and can stain if not sealed. Otherwise it's a wonderfull product. Healthy, it won't gass off like plastic and it smells good. It's all natural made with linnseed oil and cork and is super durable. It is often used in high traffic areas in comercial applications. Here's a picture of what it looked like with the inlay. (not the best picture but you get the idea)
Another trick: You can fill gaps or scraps by scraping a spare piece and making a powder. Mix this with some white glue and you have some color matched filler. The installer thought me that one.
I've been looking at the Marmoleum Click on Forbos Website http://www.themarmoleumstore.com/fra...nu_id=29&ssm=1 It lools like it'd be a pretty easy install and there's no glue so it wouldn't be too hard to change it down the road if you wanted/needed to. I've found a website that's selling it for around $5.80 a sq ft for the 12x12, it also comes in 12x36 planks for under $5 a sq ft. It has a cork bottom layer. Has anyone done this install? do you have any photos? I still have to figure out how much square footage I need for our trailerl
The tile with MDF backing would be awfully heavy for a trailer. I'd stick with the sheet goods.
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The tile with MDF backing would be awfully heavy for a trailer. I'd stick with the sheet goods.
Thanks for the advice. I've since decided to go with the sheet flooring. I want to use two colors so that I can contrast between rooms. Has anyone used the 20" squares in their trailer? Do you have pics? I'm afraid that they would be too large visually for the space. That was one of the reasons I wanted to go with the 12" click squares, a better size for the space. When is the best time to have this installed temp wise? I'll be having it installed by a certified Marmoleum installer, is there anything I need to tell him about trailer installs that he may not know? What about things that I should make sure to mention to him to do? Some one mentioned sealing the wood floor before the application, is that something they would do?
Thanks in advance for your help.
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I used the Squares in the Peanut! Actualy put them in @ night a few weeks ago, The temps were in the 20's Put the boxes of tiles in 2 days before to get everything the same temp. Worked GREAT!
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