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Old 03-23-2012, 05:05 PM   #1
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Best floor : Marmoleum Vs Traffic Master Allure

Wondering based on everyone's experience what would be the best floor out there for RVing?
Traffic, humidity, flexing while driving etc.
We are trying to obtain a high gloss finish.
Will please love everyone's input and pics will be great!
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Old 03-23-2012, 05:27 PM   #2
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We have had sheet Marmoleum in both our Airstreams and LOVE it! We have had it professionally installed (glue down) and would do the same again.

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It's between Marmoleum and cork for me ~ cork for the green aspect & it's light weight & other properties seem good for a trailer but the Marmoleum is vintage. There's a way to get the Marmoleum look at a better price. Commercial vinyl vintage look 12x12 tiles at Lowes are very reasonable with many choices for colors. The Marmoleum & cork cost more from my research so far. I think you can get it shiny with a paste wax & a buffer but I suggest not to use an acrylic that will build up.

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I'm going with the cork in my SERRO SCOTTY for something different. I wanted to put cork in the Safari, but my husband doesn't like it. Since the Scotty is "my Sister's trailer" I wil do whatever I want. (Love ya' dear!)

I do love the Marmoleum in our Airstream - but IMO the cork fits better with the western theme for the Scotty.

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I installed TrafficMaster Allure 6" x 36" from Home Depot in my trailer last summer. I installed it side to side. I liked it at first but in a few weeks I had several joint separations. I think I installed it to specifications. I rolled every joint. It was pretty warm when I installed it. I acclimated the tiles and kept the trailer air conditioned during the process.

Some joints opened up 1/8". One right in front of the entry door opened up more than 1/8". I'll heat the joints and re-glue those open joints with vinyl floor adhesive, but in short, I'm not a happy customer.
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It's between Marmoleum and cork for me ~ cork for the green aspect & it's light weight & other properties seem good for a trailer but the Marmoleum is vintage. There's a way to get the Marmoleum look at a better price. Commercial vinyl vintage look 12x12 tiles at Lowes are very reasonable with many choices for colors. The Marmoleum & cork cost more from my research so far. I think you can get it shiny with a paste wax & a buffer but I suggest not to use an acrylic that will build up.

I don't have a dog in this fight yet (though I'll be looking to replace the vinyl squares someday) but I put Marmoleum in the kitchen in our house. It's essentially as green as cork, made with linseed oil and other renewable components. It's NOT vinyl, even though people tend to incorrectly call roll vinyl flooring "linoleum."

You shouldn't use wax on linoleum floors, I use a couple of products intended for linoleum from Armstrong. They're creatively named "Armstrong Genuine Linoleum Floor Cleaner" and "Armstrong Genuine Linoleum Floor Polish."
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We've checked around and after seeing a few amazing Marmoleum floors that's what we're going with when we get around to redoing the floor.. probably in late Fall .. what's in there now is fine... but the Marmoleum will look much cooler! It's not inexpensive and we're having it professionally installed but the quality/look are worth it to us!
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I'm sorry to ask this as I really like to be self sufficient but in this case the answer eludes me, does anyone know exactly what flooring airstream is installing in new trailers? I am just curious!
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For the folks that had or will have Marmoleum installed professionally. Is luan plywood used over the sub-floor, and then the Marmolueum is glued to it? Sub-floors don't typically provide a good substrate, especially if its a direct glue-down.
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We really love our allure floor, and it was much, much less expensive than marmoleum.
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I used a cheaper vinyl plank as a temporary floor in the front half of my Overlander, and after a few months large gaps were opening up. It's not as good as Allure Trafficmaster, and I expected some problems so it's not a big deal since I'll be ripping out all of the subfloor in a few months anyway. But, having used the actual Allure in my home, I can see how it could suffer from some of the same conditions that my cheap vinyl plank has had.

Given unlimited budget I'd use a linoleum sheet product, but under my budget constraints, I am really loving the 12x12 VCT I installed (glue-down) in the back half of the trailer. That is the closest you can get to the original VAT that Airstream used and that did fine in my trailer for its first 40 or so years. The stuff is indestructible. If you want high gloss you'd have to polish and strip it every year or two, but I'm really happy with the matte finish and zero maintenance.

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You have to find a product that works in an exterior location unless you live somewhere where there is no winter and summers are not too hot. Expansion and contraction cause problems — in the winter the trailer contracts and the floor may not as much, especially if installed under partitions and cabinets.

The sheet vinyl installed in a lot of new trailers will develop humps in it over a few cold winters. The trailer pushes the vinyl upward. It is also very cheap vinyl and very thin. It is not glued down. A glue should also be suitable for extreme temps.

The Airstream sheet vinyl is about 1/16" thick. Planks and tiles are thicker and this may mean some modifications. If ours, lower cabinet doors have to be cut down a bit so the doors will open with new flooring. Notches also need to be cut under some partitions to slide the new floor underneath. You have to leave expansion/contraction space around the edges of the floor to prevent problems and cover the space with trim. Do not nail the trim to the floor. It has to move.

We looked at Allure, but though it was pretty thin and was interlocking, we weren't sure how it would act in temperature extremes and we wanted wider planks. I could not find cork or rubber in our part of the state and didn't want to order something online that I hadn't touched.

We ended up buying Karndean loose lay planks (about 10" x 41"; 3/16" thick). They have a rubber backing that makes it impossible to move it when you stand on it, but hitting it from the side, it will move. I am using non-permanent glue under it (comes in a spray can) to keep it in place. I hope that works and the seams don't separate. This glue has a temp range down to 10˚ F, but may not be a problem because we aren't using the trailer at those temps. But I will be able to easily pull it up and check for leaks from time to time or push it together. I am in the process of doing this so I'll see how it works over time.

Wood would be nice, but wood moves a lot. It is also heavy. Vinyl somewhat less unless the sun gets on it. Temp changes are hard on floors and glue, so choose with that in mind. The thicker the floor, the more problems fitting it to the trailer. Cork for these purposes are planks or tiles mounted on a different surface and they may expand and contract at different rates and cause problems, but those with these types of cork have reported no problems. Residential cork floors are cork all the way through, but that is pretty thick. Linoleum (not vinyl they call linoleum; it isn't and you have to be careful about that) is a good idea, but hard to find. It lasts much longer than vinyl and is all natural, not petroleum based. Marmoleum is, I believe, linoleum and I couldn't find any. It is expensive too.

Any floor you use (except extra cheap vinyl sheet) will be heaver than the original floor, so remember that when you load your trailer. And, installing sheet vinyl in the trailer without removing everything inside, is very difficult. You have to cut around cabinets and partitions and it is very hard to do that.

You can use quarterround trim in most places to cover the expansion space. Around the curved kitchen sink cabinet I will use commercial rubber trim that bends around curves and glue it in place. It isn't pretty but they make it in a variety of colors so you can match it to the cabinet.

A high gloss finish is the least important consideration to us given the other things that are necessary. Ceramic tiles would do that, but are very heavy.

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Thanks for the great reply.
Do you have any pics of the flooring on your AS?
The PO of the AS that we are full-timing now placed laminate floors.
The design is ok and after reading all the reviews (nothing good yet) we are still very impress of the way that is holding on.
We had some major water leakage and that part noticeable but other than that it seems fine.
Now wondering about the weight factor.
We were just in HD and they had Engineer Hardwood floor on sale and the price was great! That was a shocking price $2.29 sqft. just 0.50 0ver laminate. I installed laminate floors before and the difference on the weight it didn't seem much.
May be wrong but I couldn't find the specs about the weight per box
Wondering if someone tried hardwood floors?
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For the folks that had or will have Marmoleum installed professionally. Is luan plywood used over the sub-floor, and then the Marmolueum is glued to it? Sub-floors don't typically provide a good substrate, especially if its a direct glue-down.

The guy that installed our Marmoleum/Linoleum put down a Luan Plywood AND then skimmed it w/a Floor Leveling material of some kind and then glued down the Linoleum. Turned out great (although no miles on the trailer yet).
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