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Old 02-11-2013, 05:10 PM   #1
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Shocks or no shocks?

I will be replacing my axles. Dexter axles are complete and no shocks are needed? Everybody I talked with said that they are not nessesary. Imput please. Thanks
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Old 02-11-2013, 05:16 PM   #2
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Does not sound right to me. You might want to talk to someone qualified about this. Give Colin Hyde or Andrew a shout and see what they have to say about it.
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Do newer Airstreams today come from Airstream with Dexter Axles. Do they have shocks?
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Old 02-11-2013, 05:53 PM   #4
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I think the story is that Dexter uses this type of axle design for more than just airstream trailers and those applications don't use shocks. Airstreams do use them and if you think about it, you really don't want the wheels bouncing uncontrolled over rough stretches of road. The idea is to give the coach as nice and cushy a ride as possible to keep the frame from flexing and rivets popping.

I just had a welder do the four brackets on my rigs new axles for 100 bucks. I would rather not have paid that extra money, but I do think they are necessary.

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Where did you get your axles? and shock mounts?
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Old 02-11-2013, 06:50 PM   #6
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Newer Airstreams do come with Dexters (That could change) and shocks.

This axle type does cushion the coach more so than other axle types and that is why many in the service industry say shocks are not needed. In my opinion it is a personal choice.

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Old 02-11-2013, 07:01 PM   #7
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Colin Hyde does axis axles, and he can order you a bolt on axles with brackets installed. He really seems to know his stuff. I ordered dexter axles and I still need to install the brackets. Dexter warranty states if you weld on the axle it voids the warranty, thus my waiting. I went with dexter axle since I could pick them up at red neck trailer supply, and save on the freight shipping. If I was to order axles again I think I would go with Colin.
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With these particular shocks that are sold as replacements pick one up and actuate them by hand. With axles, loads rated for 3500 lbs and up plus highway speeds road vibrations, potholes, dips, etc you can be the judge whether these particular replacement shocks are necessary. I wouldn't put these shocks on my mountain bike not that that is a good comparison but you get my point.

That being said I agree with Action...personal choice
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Yea mine are sitting on the shelf, they really seem more like dampers than shocks.. They work in both directions.
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They're really not vecessary on your TV either. They are just there for handling, comfort, control and safety. Take them off of your TV ans see if you like it. Just because your are not riding in the trailer, doesn't mean there aren't mechanical reasons why they are there. I do BELIEVE, if AS didn't think they were necessary, they would save the bucks and tell you so.
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For what it's worth at this point...

I bought my axles direct from Axis. I had them add the shock bracket at the factory so that if I or a later owner wanted to install them, they could. I opted not to install the shocks and so far have no regrets. The trailer pulls very well as compared to before the axle change.
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Old 02-17-2013, 03:25 PM   #12
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I swapped my original Henschens for Axis in 2011. I was originally planning to reinstall the shocks, but one of the studs broke off when removing the shock retainer bolt. After removing the remaining shocks, I decided to run without shocks before taking the time and spending the money to replace the old shocks and repair the damaged stud.

Two seasons and a few thousand miles later, I have no plans to reinstall the shocks.
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Old 02-17-2013, 04:52 PM   #13
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Shocks

Manufacturers sometimes do dumb things.

But I don't believe they would be doing the same dumb thing for over 50 years.

For those that feel shocks are not necessary, have you ever been in the trailer at 50 to 60 mph, with no shocks? If you did, you would change your mind in less than a heart beat.

Airstream's must have a soft ride, and the shocks improve the ride that they receive from the torsion axles.

The axles that Airstream purchases from Dexter, TODAY" are all equipped with shock brackets.

I have worked on Airstreams that were equiped with load range "B" tires, and the owners always said, "never a problem".

Experience takes time. Opinions do not.

But again, to each his own.

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Old 02-17-2013, 10:27 PM   #14
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Removing the shocks will result in an under-damped suspension system. Under-damped suspensions result in a softer ride at the expense of body control. Think 1980's Cadillac.

Offering a jab at someone's opinion/experience while insinuating that yours is superior is quite bold when you know little of the other person's background.
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