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Old 07-03-2017, 06:20 PM   #1
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We ordered and received a new Dexter axle last week to replace the original axel on our '69 GT. I must admit, I was relieved to have it finally in place!. The question we have is about the shock mounts, which came welded onto the axle. The shocks stick out farther at the axle attachment than at the original frame attachment, so the shocks sit at an angle to the frame of the trailer. Will that affect the operation of the shocks? Should we put a longer bolt on the old frame attachment, if that's possible?
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Old 07-03-2017, 07:28 PM   #2
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These pics show that the axles are the same length. However, the part where the shock mount is welded is different.
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Old 07-03-2017, 08:48 PM   #3
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If the shocks are able to move without binding you are good to go. They don't care which angle they are mounted.

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My only concern would be that the shock would push out of its mounts. I assume that they are rubber.
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How can you tell if the shock is binding?
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There is about 1 - 1/12" variance between the front mount and back mount from where they stick out from the trailer frame, where the original ones were parallel to the frame. Has anyone had this problem? Or is it not a problem? Just wondering before we take her on the road.
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I'm just behind you in this process and this morning pulled one axle out. First thing that got my attention was the shock stud is only 1/2" from the frame and to replace a shock means dropping the axle, I do see though that the shock is not in align with the frame with the forward stud mount being 1/2" narrower than the rear(axle end). that 1/2" out looks bad enough and don't think I would be happy with 1-1/2" like you have.
I would either not use shocks or weld a new longer stud on the frame or the axle brkt.
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When I replaced my GT axle I welded the shock bracket on myself and there is a small offset. Looking at your pictures, it looks like brackets were welded on the wrong side of the swing arm. You can also look into cutting them off and re-welding in a more desirable location.
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Here's what my shocks look like with 1/2" misalignment, outer jacket just about rubbing.
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How can you tell if the shock is binding?
Remove one end.
Move that end such that the shock gets longer and shorter.
If the effort is basically consistent throughout the movement the shock isn't binding.

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Another post pointed out this problem. It said that the new Dexter axles are different from the originals - mine were made by Henschen. The axle tube is longer and the spindle is shorter. The wheel mounting surface is the same distance from the frame rails but the shock bracket is moved out. I suspect I'm going to have the same problem when my new axles arrive.

If my installer can deal with it, I'll let him. If it gets too hard, I may just leave the shocks off.

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Itís the sort of thing a trailer shop (big truck) can handle. So long as precautions about welding on the frame are observed.
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If it gets too hard, I may just leave the shocks off.
Not a good idea, unless you want the trailer to bounce forever. The purpose of shock absorbersó despite the nameó isn't to absorb shocks. It's to put a damper on bouncing. This drawing explains it better than I could:
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The makeup of an Airstream axle/spring is rubber not steel. The rubber encased in the tube acts as a dampener in of i's self. Because t always want to get back to the original position.

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