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Old 02-03-2006, 01:34 PM   #15
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Guess I am living in the 60's. No gas back then. Got it at NAPA. Coulda found it else where. Measured old shock and got the replacement.

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Old 02-03-2006, 01:37 PM   #16
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I'm with you for both of those last posts, Uwe. I bought the gabriel shocks after reading an earlier post of yours.

I was thinking about the dynamics of the axle and agree that unless I get airborne, probably the 10 - 20% travel I will leave for downward motion will be fine. I guess I will see...

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Old 02-03-2006, 03:12 PM   #17
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Guess I am living in the 60's. No gas back then. Got it at NAPA. Coulda found it else where. Measured old shock and got the replacement.

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I tried Napa here in CA. No luck, all teh shocks of the right length and mounting configuration were supposedly gas charged. Maybe the guy just did not want to hassle with my request.
I went and bought the Airstream type shocks from Andy. those seem to fit fine, and are nice and sloppy.
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I did a face to face.

Took the old shock to the counter to see what kinda guy I was dealing with. You know, is he working part time cause he is still in high school auto shop? Or does he have the kinda experience I am looking for?

Anyway, the (2nd) counter guy looked them over and found a set. If you want the part numbers I'll get them.

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I did a face to face.

Took the old shock to the counter to see what kinda guy I was dealing with. You know, is he working part time cause he is still in high school auto shop? Or does he have the kinda experience I am looking for?

Anyway, the (2nd) counter guy looked them over and found a set. If you want the part numbers I'll get them.

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Thank you, but I finally got the suspension, shock and brake obsession behind me, thank God!
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Old 02-04-2006, 12:00 PM   #20
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Looks Good

Carlos,
I saw your sketch and went and looked at my installation on my 64 Tradewind.
The PICs below appear to accurately represent your sketch. They show the curbside wheel. My DuraTorque axil with 12" brakes was replaced and installed by Andy at Inland a couple of years ago. It looks like the original shock mount was used. Hope this helps with your installation.
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Thanks for all the help - I get them on ( I think )

the pictures are dark, but look a lot like yours wardinbb.


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Except... there is a lot less space between the wheel and wheel well on my airstream and I mounted the brackets on the bottom pointing on the other direction (the "lean" of the bracket is towards the wheel rather than towards the axle). This makes for more travel on the shock, though I am with Uwe on this and see precious little difference before and after at least when I am jumping up and down in there. I suppose it will make a difference when I hit a big bump at 50 mph though ( I hope ).
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Except... there is a lot less space between the wheel and wheel well on my airstream and I mounted the brackets on the bottom pointing on the other direction (the "lean" of the bracket is towards the wheel rather than towards the axle). This makes for more travel on the shock, though I am with Uwe on this and see precious little difference before and after at least when I am jumping up and down in there. I suppose it will make a difference when I hit a big bump at 50 mph though ( I hope ).
Hey Carlos, I got an idea!
Let's hitch up and hit a ramp at 50mph, with a slow speed camera recording the whole thing. The truck and trailer must be airborne as a unit, though. So maybe we need more speed than 50mph. How about 90?
Then we'll do the whole thing again, this time without shocks.
You go first....
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Due to the self damping tendency of the rubber torsion axle system, it is unlikely that the unsprung tire/wheel assembly will overshoot it's unloaded natural resting place by a large margin. . .
. . . A trailer that has a conventional solid axle system would probably have to be configured differently, as the sheer weight of a solid axle with brakes and tires, suspended from heavy leaf springs, will definitely have more momentum when accelerated quickly. . .
That agrees with test results from Al-Ko. Here is their slant on the difference between leaf springs and torsion axles, and why they don't think shocks are required on torsion axles.
http://www.americanarv.com/alko.html
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Well, if nothing else, it was a good honest 6 hours work - this is currency here in the midwest.
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Well, if nothing else, it was a good honest 6 hours work - this is currency here in the midwest.
Don't feel bad, Carlos. I eventually went with shocks, too. If anything, it's for the sake of originality.
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That agrees with test results from Al-Ko. Here is their slant on the difference between leaf springs and torsion axles, and why they don't think shocks are required on torsion axles.
http://www.americanarv.com/alko.html
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this is good information. Puts a bit more validity in my thought process.
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