No shocks on my '65. This is what I was told.

[Diesel1]

Originally Posted by Inland RV Center, In

Hayes axle Ontario facility update.

As of a few minutes ago, the following information was obtained from Hayes branch, in Ontario, California.

1. They have not sold retail in many years.

2. They have not built any torsion axles at their Ontario plant in over 10 years.

3. Corporate has deleted many of their dealers a frew years ago, "that did not spend enough money with them," like at least $50,000.00 per year, net.

4. The local Dexter plant in San Bernardino, California, has officially closed as of October 27th, 2008.

Andy

Andy, I need axles, and of course I am broke. So I am looking and learning. From looking at Dexter's on line info it appears to be a real pain to order their axles. However here in Kingman is a parts house that sell dexter & Hayes axles(remember we used to have the Ford Proving Ground here which was a big customer). If I take an old axle in they will order it no fuss. I am however a longtime Ford dealership mechanic, and as such am a firm beliver in the factory is almost without exception the best way to go as far as parts are concerned. So I am exploring and doing homework. I would very much apriciate a firm quote from you regarding my 1967 24" Tradewind. How much for bare axles( I already replaced the brakes with new loaded backing plates),& shocks including taxes & shipping. Thanking you in advance, John

[Inland RV Center, In]

Originally Posted by Diesel1

Andy, I need axles, and of course I am broke. So I am looking and learning. From looking at Dexter's on line info it appears to be a real pain to order their axles. However here in Kingman is a parts house that sell dexter & Hayes axles(remember we used to have the Ford Proving Ground here which was a big customer). If I take an old axle in they will order it no fuss. I am however a longtime Ford dealership mechanic, and as such am a firm beliver in the factory is almost without exception the best way to go as far as parts are concerned. So I am exploring and doing homework. I would very much apriciate a firm quote from you regarding my 1967 24" Tradewind. How much for bare axles( I already replaced the brakes with new loaded backing plates),& shocks including taxes & shipping. Thanking you in advance, John

Our Henschen replacements, will have 12 inch brake flanges, not 10 inch as you would get with Dexter.

Also, we have a starting angle of 35 degrees, Dexter does not. If you use 45 degrees, Henschen and Airstream feel that angle is excessive and can cause problems.

We are not permitted to post prices. Please check your PM for them.

Andy

[Diesel1]

Andy, What is a 10 or 12 inch brake flange? And thanks for your prompt reply but in your reply no shipping cost ? If needed my zip is 86402. Thanks again, John

[Inland RV Center, In]

Originally Posted by Diesel1

Andy, What is a 10 or 12 inch brake flange? And thanks for your prompt reply but in your reply no shipping cost ? If needed my zip is 86402. Thanks again, John

A 10 inch brake flange will only accept 10 inch brakes. A 12 inch flange will only accept 12 inch brakes.

Youe trailer was equipped with 12 inch brakes. Down grading to 10 inch would not be a good idea. If so, Airstream would have done that.

Are you going to use a residential or commercial address? It makes almost $100.00 difference in freight costs.

Andy

[Diesel1]

Thanks for the info, you are correct(as you already know) about the angles. I believe the Dexter had a 10,17,& 45 degree angle. Thanks for the brake info, I deffinatly want to keep the larger brakes. I will be using a commercial address. Thanks again, John

[Inland RV Center, In]

Originally Posted by Diesel1

Thanks for the info, you are correct(as you already know) about the angles. I believe the Dexter had a 10,17,& 45 degree angle. Thanks for the brake info, I deffinatly want to keep the larger brakes. I will be using a commercial address. Thanks again, John

Starting angle are with zero load.

After a load takes place, a proper rated torsion axle will drop 10 to 12 degrees.

Therefore a 10 degree will position the trailer lower than intended, and the 17 degree will do the same.

A 35 degree starting angle will raise the trailer about 3 inches above the original starting angle. also 35 degrees loaded is the same as Airstreams 22.5 degrees, unloaded.

Your prices are in a PM.

Andy

[Diesel1]

Andy, Thanks for all the info. You are quoting me with shipping the same price as the local guy is quoting me. That is what I needed to know. I will use the factory parts. When I am ready I likely will come to your place and pick up the parts. In relation to the I-10 & the I-15 junction where are you located. Once again thanks for your speedy replys. John

[Inland RV Center, In]

Originally Posted by Diesel1

Andy, Thanks for all the info. You are quoting me with shipping the same price as the local guy is quoting me. That is what I needed to know. I will use the factory parts. When I am ready I likely will come to your place and pick up the parts. In relation to the I-10 & the I-15 junction where are you located. Once again thanks for your speedy replys. John

We are about 20 to 25 minutes from I-10 and I-15.

Check your map for the junction of I-15 and 91, which is a little south of I-10.

From that junction, we are about 5 minutes away.

Andy

[Mikethefixit]

Diesel 1
Wise decision. I changed axles this yr. I ordered thru Andy and picked up at Henshen. Installed myself in about 3 hrs. Henshens spec's were so close to the original ('77) I had to gently convince them (with a plastic sledge) to slide up into the notches in the frame. All bolt holes lined up perfectly. Original parts is the only way to fly.

[herrgirdner]

At the risk of sounding like an echo:
I once had a SOB trailer which did not have shocks. It would bounce all over the road, and on certain concrete roadways would just about make you sick if you saw the rear-view mirror. A hot-rod buddy of mine advised me to put shocks on; said if I would buy them, he would do the welding.
It was a vast improvement in handling, I could tow that trailer at 80 mph vice 50 over the same road.
Shocks are not nice, they are necessary.
regards

[greywolf]

I've even had a situation where I had to fabricate my own shock mounts before welding them on, machine shop and welding rates may not be cheap, but it can certainly be accomplished.

In addition to shocks, I recommend the tires be balanced as well. A lot of tire stores will tell you that it's not neccessary to balance trailer tires. I believe these are guys who do not tow much. You do feel the vibration through the hitch and into the tow vehicle and it cause tire hopping. I even have the tires on my utility trailers balanced and this helps a lot on the highway.

[Diesel1]

Originally Posted by Diesel1

Now that some time has passed how do you like your Hayes axle, would you reccomend Hayes axles? What about no shocks? Good or bad? Thanks, John

Jim I see you are online, I still wonder- how do you like/dislike not having shocks? Adios, John