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Old 03-04-2011, 03:59 PM   #15
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It is a Gabriel shock absorber made exclusively for Airstream. No one can order it , even with the Gabriel part number, except for Airsteam. The original manufacturer for the shock was Delco and when they stopped making shocks, Airsteam contracted with Gabriel to produce the shocks. The price is more than reasonable considering that it is a one of a kind part, the price is about the same as any multi application shock.
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Old 03-04-2011, 04:08 PM   #16
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It is a Gabriel shock absorber made exclusively for Airstream. No one can order it , even with the Gabriel part number, except for Airsteam. The original manufacturer for the shock was Delco and when they stopped making shocks, Airsteam contracted with Gabriel to produce the shocks. The price is more than reasonable considering that it is a one of a kind part, the price is about the same as any multi application shock.
Any shock that costs less than $30.00 each, is a great deal, even for a sole application.



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Old 03-04-2011, 05:03 PM   #17
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Using this logic of what to call things, if I sell my Gabriel shocks to Lahrfarm that I bought from OoDM, that bought them from Airstream, that bought them from Gabriel, can I call them "Top" shocks? I guess I could. It wouldn't change the fact that they are Gabriel shocks.

"For sale. Four "Top" shocks. Manufactured to my exacting standards! You can only buy "Top" shocks from Top. (please pay no attention to the small stamp that reads Gabriel)" Hows that for splitting hairs?
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Using this logic of what to call things, if I sell my Gabriel shocks to Lahrfarm that I bought from OoDM, that bought them from Airstream, that bought them from Gabriel, can I call them "Top" shocks? I guess I could. It wouldn't change the fact that they are Gabriel shocks.

"For sale. Four "Top" shocks. Manufactured to my exacting standards! You can only buy "Top" shocks from Top. (please pay no attention to the small stamp that reads Gabriel)" Hows that for splitting hairs?
You are correct. There are a limited number of shock manufacturers in this country. And you can buy shocks from retailers of many names. Those retailers many times have a specific application and a specific spec those shocks are made to fit the application. My example if Ford Motor Company. Ford does not manufacture shocks. However they do sell them under their label. And some of those shocks made by a shock manufacurer can not be sold by the same shock manufacturer's retail outlet. So if you want to retail shocks made to your specs with your name on it I am sure Gabriel would want to fill your order. And those shocks will have a Gabriel stamp on them with your sticker on it.

You can take that even furher, with a domestic made automobile with foreign parts content. However I would rather not as this is a different can of worms on the same topic.

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Is that horizontal shock the same one used on the motorhome tag axles? Mark
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Is that horizontal shock the same one used on the motorhome tag axles? Mark
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It is a Gabriel shock absorber made exclusively for Airstream. No one can order it , even with the Gabriel part number, except for Airsteam. The original manufacturer for the shock was Delco and when they stopped making shocks, Airsteam contracted with Gabriel to produce the shocks. The price is more than reasonable considering that it is a one of a kind part, the price is about the same as any multi application shock.
In a previous life...I spent a fair amount of time in the Delco plant that made the shocks...I can say for some of the Delco parts "made exclusively" simply meant a standard part had a new part number assigned to it...you couldn't order 'that part number' unless you were the proper custmer...they did that with several of our products...

Having said that...I would LOVE for someone to disect an "airstream" shock and document the 'difference' between it and a standard Delco or Gabriel unit...I really believe the results might be eye opening...
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Old 04-27-2011, 08:05 PM   #22
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I shouldn't read threads like this one. Shocks installed upside down. I'm sure I installed ours right. At least, I think so. Jeez, it's been over a year now! Did I do it right or not? Dang, I can't remember.

(I went out and checked. They're correctly installed.)


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Old 04-27-2011, 08:10 PM   #23
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Having said that...I would LOVE for someone to disect an "airstream" shock and document the 'difference' between it and a standard Delco or Gabriel unit...I really believe the results might be eye opening...
I cut open an "Airstream" shock, along with the Monroe Gas-matic that I use, & guess what.................you're right I'll post some photos of both of them soon, along with the rest of the info that I discovered.
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Top, get over it. Nobody makes their own shock, not GM, Ford, Chrysler, Toyota....nobody. There are only a couple of shock mfrs. There have been many buyouts over the years and although there are a lot of BRANDS, there are only a couple mainstream manufacturers. There are some specialty shocks for off road and racing, etc. These are Airstream specification built and therefore AS shocks just like Ford OEM engineering spec shocks are Ford shocks.

You can cut them all apart and compare, but what won't be apparent is: do they dampen on only compression or extension, or both. What are the fluid specifications? What is the rate (valving) of the dampening? Is it a constant rate or a staged rate? Etc...etc.

Point is, they are spec'ed specifically to a particular suspension type. In cars this is VERY carline specific...probably not so much with AS, but I suspect rubber suspension behaves very differently than coil or leaf springs dynamically.
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IIRC the AS shock has virtually no resistance to compression and a lot of dampening on extension (rebound). That's pretty unusual in the automotive world.
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Top, get over it. Nobody makes their own shock, not GM, Ford, Chrysler, Toyota....nobody. There are only a couple of shock mfrs. There have been many buyouts over the years and although there are a lot of BRANDS, there are only a couple mainstream manufacturers. There are some specialty shocks for off road and racing, etc. These are Airstream specification built and therefore AS shocks just like Ford OEM engineering spec shocks are Ford shocks.

You can cut them all apart and compare, but what won't be apparent is: do they dampen on only compression or extension, or both. What are the fluid specifications? What is the rate (valving) of the dampening? Is it a constant rate or a staged rate? Etc...etc.

Point is, they are spec'ed specifically to a particular suspension type. In cars this is VERY carline specific...probably not so much with AS, but I suspect rubber suspension behaves very differently than coil or leaf springs dynamically.
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What exactly should I "Get over"? I purchased genuine Airstream shocks from Out of Doors Mart. They were stamped "Gabriel" The only reason I bought them was because I didn't feel like repainting yellow Monroe shocks black.
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Didn't mean to offend...I just don't get why folks seem to always think that the engineers somehow designed to a lesser standard than the aftermarket. Sometimes new technology allow for a better mousetrap when that technology wasn't available at design inception. If length and stroke were the only parameters for shock design, there would be a LOT less part numbers out there. I am suggesting the yellow shock is very different in it's internal design. If there's no cross reference number, use the OEM number. That's all I mean.
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I cut open an "Airstream" shock, along with the Monroe Gas-matic that I use, & guess what.................you're right I'll post some photos of both of them soon, along with the rest of the info that I discovered.
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the suspense is killing me colin whatcha got!?! because i'm not so sure the gasmatics i installed with my new axle really do much of anything
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