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Old 08-19-2009, 12:47 PM   #43
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Another advantage is when towing or backing, you can see through the entire trailer behind you - no bathroom across the trailer to impede your view.
This is one feature of our Argosy 24 that I really appreciate. Not essential but it is nice.

With the front kitchen was there no hood vent for the stove? I wouldn't want to give that up and I wouldn't want to cut holes in the front or curved corners. Otherwise taking advantage of the wrap around glass at the front of the Argosy by turning it into the kitchen work space would be great.

It looks OK in the pictures but I was also wondering how well it works out to have a wall intersecting with a window. Although on the Safari it appears there's actually a window frame at this point.
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Old 08-19-2009, 02:14 PM   #44
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With the front kitchen was there no hood vent for the stove? I wouldn't want to give that up and I wouldn't want to cut holes in the front or curved corners. Otherwise taking advantage of the wrap around glass at the front of the Argosy by turning it into the kitchen work space would be great.
There is no hood or vent directly over the stove. There is the operable window right next to it and a vent in the ceiling about 2-3 feet away. We changed it to a Fantastic Fan - seems to work fine, we leave the front fan on blowing out - helps both with cooking & showering steam.

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It looks OK in the pictures but I was also wondering how well it works out to have a wall intersecting with a window. Although on the Safari it appears there's actually a window frame at this point.
You're right, on our Safari the wall intersects at a frame support - it is actually about 1/4" away, doesn't actually touch it. There is a slight air gap there but the shower head spray doesn't reach that far so water doesn't go through it. We also have a mini shower curtain at the window to keep splashes from getting on the window or through the gap.

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Old 08-19-2009, 03:11 PM   #45
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Love the 28'

As other have said it depends on your needs and your style. I chose the 28' Safari SE because it had a sofa, a dinettte, a large enough refrigerator and bath with separate shower and the a queen size bed you can walk around. I plan to full time in mine so the layout appealed to me - I've spent a lot of time on boats and know what a pain it is to make up a bed in a v-berth - I didn't want to fight with that corner bed. Although I'm not full timing yet, I find I couldn't do without the dinette - use it more than the sofa, for craft work, laptop, reading and of course eating. As my A/S will be home for me the distinct living areas were important - especially when the weather isn't conducive to being outside. My only reservation is that the galley is smaller than I'd like and it's difficult to stow all the heavy things down low and still have them easily accessible. But after looking at all the airstreams I could find in the 22 to 28' range - I'm very happy that I went for the 28 and know that I wouldn't have been as content with a smaller trailer. And I agree with the 6-4-2 rule!
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Old 08-19-2009, 05:24 PM   #46
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Alright, the 6-4-2 rule is alive and well.
This works for smaller yachts too.
Drink 6
Eat 4
Sleep 2

Excess personnel,,,, in the tent, or ashore.
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Old 08-19-2009, 08:18 PM   #47
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After many years of "looking" but not buying...I am leaning toward the 27FB...or the 28' with L "couch".

Not sure how comfortable the dinettes are for "sitting" (either the FB dinette/lounge or the 28' dinette)...say working on the computer or just drinking coffee?

Also still torn between the twin beds and RV queen...we have King bed at home...rpobably would not be a deal breaker if we found the "right" slightly used AS here in the upper midwest.
Tom,

The comfort of the dinette depends of what you like to sit on. The foam is very, very firm and some people prefer soft, plushy. The covers for the cushions are not well made. To me a dinette is indispensable—space for eating, leaving stuff we use (medications, tissues, condiments), space for laptop, reading. Others do it differently. A lot of people live in the kitchen/dining room a lot and I suppose people like that might prefer a dinnette. Our kitchen/dining room/living room at home all flow into each other at home, so we like the set up we have—the same but smaller. So, what you like at home may tell you what you want on the road.

Same with bed—switching from king to twins seems pretty radical to me.

Isn't it getting to be time to pull the trigger and actually buy an Airstream?

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Old 08-19-2009, 09:12 PM   #48
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Oh, no doubt..

No doubt, everyone needs a bunkhouse....

Errr, thats why they made them 1.5 years!!!

Best for us anyway with 4 kids!!
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Old 08-20-2009, 07:16 AM   #49
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Tom,

Isn't it getting to be time to pull the trigger and actually buy an Airstream?

Gene
Not sure if that will ever happen...right now I am focused on "earning" back the decline in my retirement accounts. As a self employed individual my "nest egg" is the primary source of retirement security. While I am likely still "OK"...I seem to have lost much of my "cushion"...although I am tracking pretty well since March.

I guess I reflect the broader consumer group that is buying very little of a "capital" nature...and working harder and longer than planned before retirement.

I have managed to get my wife out to see a couple of ASs and she is beginning to ward to the idea...a bit. Also am actively looking for a low miles used 2007-2007 Duramax/Allison Chev/GMC. That would be a first step.

Thanks...Tom R

P.S. 3.75 inches of rain last night...trying to "fill" Lake Superior back to normal level...TMR
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Old 08-20-2009, 09:44 AM   #50
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I do not believe that you can decouple the "best floor plan" from trailer length. For my money, The only floorplan to seriously consider is the 27FB or maybe the 25FB queen.

That being said, a FB queen makes no sense and is therefore not available in a 19 footer.

My rig is a 27FB queen. I have yet to be turned away from a campground because of size. I sized my TV to pull this model. Sometimes your TV will drive your choice of Airstream, but I believe this is letting the tail to wag the dog.

Budget, of course may also come into play.

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Old 08-20-2009, 09:16 PM   #51
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My only gripe is that the shower is over the wheel well and half of the shower floor is raised.
The better to sit down and enjoy the shower. There isn't an RV that I've seen so far that allows me to stand up stright in the shower, so I decided, why fight it?
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Old 08-21-2009, 05:44 AM   #52
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The better to sit down and enjoy the shower. There isn't an RV that I've seen so far that allows me to stand up stright in the shower, so I decided, why fight it?
I can stand up straight and still have water fall right on my head. I am 5' 8". Every part of my shower head is stock except its location.
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To be honest, I think the shower in my trailer is one of the best I have ever taken.
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Maybe I should have mentioned that I'm 6'5" tall. And that shower doesn't look stock, is it? It's looks fabulous!
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Old 08-21-2009, 06:59 PM   #54
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Okay you are too tall for my shower. Yes all that is stock. I moved the diverter from the vanity side to the wardrobe. The bracket for the shower head is as high as it can go. Now the walls are not stock and either is the tub color.
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Old 08-21-2009, 08:37 PM   #55
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Hi,
I had a 29' rear twin. When we pulled into a rest area one night and were getting ready to take a nap, my wife asked me which side of the trailer would most likely get hit if a sleeply truck-driver came in?? I ended up sleeping on the street side.(Left Side) That question convinced me to purchase a 27' FB Classic. Now I sleep quite well up front...
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Old 08-25-2009, 11:53 AM   #56
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The better to sit down and enjoy the shower. There isn't an RV that I've seen so far that allows me to stand up stright in the shower, so I decided, why fight it?
I'm 6'2" and the Silver Streak allowed me to stand up straight . . carefully. But comfortably one has so much arm/shoulder room.

On the AVION brochure page (pdf page 6/8), Yr Mdl 1986, the 25' weighs 4,975/7,000 and features a rear bedroom with double, side bath and front lounge. About perfect, IMO, as we/I especially like two living areas due to different interests at different times. The Avion shown (I recently found one for sale, but it sold quickly) packs a BIG trailer into a small package. Better than I have seen before.

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