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Old 07-08-2009, 08:46 PM   #1
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removing overhead front assembly

I am in the process of getting my friend Jo Anne's Soverieign ready for a big interior remodel. She wants that big plastic overhead "dashboard thingy" out, and we will refinish all walls and ceiling with thin flexible plywood. Does anybody have advice on what is behind there and what I am in for here? Looks like lots of wiring- and trouble on the horizon. I figure plastic assembly removal is mostly a matter of drilling out rivets, lots and lots of rivets. Am I right?
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I am in the process of getting my friend Jo Anne's Soverieign ready for a big interior remodel. She wants that big plastic overhead "dashboard thingy" out, and we will refinish all walls and ceiling with thin flexible plywood. Does anybody have advice on what is behind there and what I am in for here? Looks like lots of wiring- and trouble on the horizon. I figure plastic assembly removal is mostly a matter of drilling out rivets, lots and lots of rivets. Am I right?
Using plywood of any kind on the inside, instead of the metal, it will destroy the monocoque principle of construction, and fall apart.

If you put the plywood over the interior metal you would be OK.

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SilverSlug,

Take a look at what what under mine. Although mine didn't have all the bells and whistles that your's has, the wiring was still there.





Hope this helps. If you need anymore pictures of the interior, let me know. I've completely gutted my interior and have all of the interior skins removed.
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Thanks, but the pictures aren't coming thru. Is it my computer blocking them or did something go wrong?
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Using plywood of any kind on the inside, instead of the metal, it will destroy the monocoque principle of construction, and fall apart.

If you put the plywood over the interior metal you would be OK.

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Hi Andy,
For the walls and ceiling we are just covering what seems to be the Masonite interior walls. The only spot that we want to remove is that front overhead dashboard above the windows and reframe with wooden skeleton and cover with 1/8 inch doorskin finish plywood. Does that sound possible or is it doomed to failure?
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Hi Andy,
For the walls and ceiling we are just covering what seems to be the Masonite interior walls. The only spot that we want to remove is that front overhead dashboard above the windows and reframe with wooden skeleton and cover with 1/8 inch doorskin finish plywood. Does that sound possible or is it doomed to failure?
The walls and ceiling is covered with aluminum that has a vinyl material bonded to ir.

As long as you leave the metal in place, you can add the wood, as you wish.

Please understand that an Airstream trailer, in motion, flexes and twists.

That may or may not have a negative effect on your wood paneling.

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It sounds like you are talking about removing the "end cap". I am not 100% sure on 75s but the spherical construction of riveted panels that make up the ends of the exterior skin is self supporting and there are no ribs, stringers or other support members under it to attach a replacement inner skin.
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Silverslug,

Here's what's behind ours (72 Sovereign) - basically nothing. I also did not want the dashboard, so I removed it. Unfortunitly, I cracked it big time in the process of removing it, and ending up cutting it in half the rest of the way to get it out. Be aware, the metal interior skins are all on top of the plastic dome piece, so getting it out in one piece without removing a bunch of interior skin panels, or at least a lot of the rivets that hold the interior skins around it, will be difficult. Yes, a lot of rivets hold in place, but they are all around the outside edge of the piece.

One big thing to note is that there are no ribs behind the plastic dome to attach metal or plywood too. I plan on using the rear dome piece as a mold to fabricate a new front dome out of fiberglass and epoxy resin. And then we'll cover the fiberglass with the same material we use to cover the interior metal (once we get to that point).

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SilverSlug,

Take a look at what what under mine. Although mine didn't have all the bells and whistles that your's has, the wiring was still there.





Hope this helps. If you need anymore pictures of the interior, let me know. I've completely gutted my interior and have all of the interior skins removed.



Let's see if this one works. It looks the same as the one above. Only some pink stuff and wires behind the end cap
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Hi Andy,
For the walls and ceiling we are just covering what seems to be the Masonite interior walls. The only spot that we want to remove is that front overhead dashboard above the windows and reframe with wooden skeleton and cover with 1/8 inch doorskin finish plywood. Does that sound possible or is it doomed to failure?
I'd lay odds you are doomed to failure.
Cannot see how you will make door skin conform to compound curves and mate with surrounding sheets. Not to mention what you will anchor it too.

Life is way too short to undertake what you are describing. Sure anything is possible but man there are hundreds of better options than what you have planned.
Of course to each their own. Good luck.
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My end cap is so yellow it's odd looking. Are they all this way? It doesn't appear so. Is there anything I can do to bring it back to original color, or has anyone done anything without a total removal that works with the deco of the airstream? Don't say wallpaper please. My doors and everything are all functioning as they should, so I wanna keep it original. Paint?
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Okay, here's another idea. What if I used a little hand held jigsaw and cut the fiberglass "dasboard" out leaving the upper dome-shaped part intact and still riveted to the walls and ceiling? Not removing the entire end cap panel. I could then make curved wooden ribs for the new doorskin dome to attach onto. These ribs could be attached to the original remaining fiberglass remnants top and bottom.
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My end cap is so yellow it's odd looking. Are they all this way? It doesn't appear so. Is there anything I can do to bring it back to original color, or has anyone done anything without a total removal that works with the deco of the airstream? Don't say wallpaper please. My doors and everything are all functioning as they should, so I wanna keep it original. Paint?
What you want to do is search this forum for a concoction that uses hydrogen peroxide and some other ingredients, in order to naturally restore the original look of the yellowed plastic. From the pictures I've seen, it works beautifully.
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