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Old 06-05-2014, 12:06 PM   #57
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Wow, thanks for all the compliments everybody. I'm glad that the thread is helping others to get ideas and inspiration. And I am hoping we start to get some real good use out of the rig. We have a membership down at Indian Cove in Virginia beach and will be parking it down there for our first two weeks starting the end of this month ending on the weekend of the 4th. I think that will be our shakedown of all our systems and mods and hopefully everything will work well or at least will be easy and quick fixes. I'm not sure where we will be going this summer and fall, I'd like to try and take it down to Hatteras for a long weekend. I'd also like to do a rally in the future, not sure if there is going to be one around the mid Atlantic or east coast area.

As for the floor, I had noticed that there is a dip in the floor in-between the metal cross supports of the frame. I chalk it up to suspending 3/4" ply across a 48" span, it's just not going stay flat. It's one of those design considerations made to reduce weight and cost. Adding another layer of wood on top would make the floor a bit stiffer but I doubt would remove the low spots and I'm not planning on pulling the belly pan off again in the near future to try and brace it up. I'ts worked ok like this for 40 years, so I think it will be ok for us down the road. As for pulling up the old parquet, I think that will end up being a 2 day job based on how much time it took to pull the few tiles I replaced. Some sort of vinyl plank or other non wood surface is probably how we'll go.

I'm already starting to plan out Phase 3. Besides the floor change, the gaucho will be departing to be replaced by some nice lounge recliners and maybe a folding table in the middle or some fold out tables on the side.

For maintenance, the front window will need to be gone over and whatever has caused leaks in the past will be corrected. The interor ceiling and walls will get some paint as will the cabinetry below the twin bunks. Way too dark like the rest of the trailer.

The original overhead light fixtures may go, to be replaced with one or more fantastic or maxi fans and I'm going to put more LED strip lighting in provide a "ceiling wash" effect similar to what I got with the lights in the curtain valences. I plan on leaving the overhead cabinets with a gap at the top and mounting the led strip on top to achieve that effect.



I'm also going to live with the current low profile dometic AC over the summer and see if it is going to be an issue with getting a good nights sleep or if we want to go with a split system mounted in the front similar to what SmokelessJoe did with his argosy. As always it will be a trade off between wants and needs vs. time and money available. Time and money usually wins out any argument.
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Old 06-08-2014, 10:29 PM   #58
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Beautiful cabinet work. Clever and creative design using the piano hinge and making your own cabinet latches.

Glad to hear that you will be removing and replacing the flooring. It is not consistent with your cabinet work. I like the idea of a non wood floor. We have too much wood in our 66 Tradewind and went with a cork floor. We are very happy with it so far.

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Ps. Are you familiar with Sands of Time in Avon? We like it as it is in the middle with grass and trees. Easy access to the sound or the ocean. It is economical too especially if you are a club member.
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Old 06-09-2014, 06:54 AM   #59
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Thanks Dan. I like the look of wood, but balanced with other materials. I think the medium tone cherry and the silver of aluminum go very nicely together. I had thought about cork, will have to investigate that when the time comes.

Wasn't familiar with the sands of time. In the middle you say? Might have to give that a try for a long weekend sometime this summer.
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Old 06-30-2014, 12:44 PM   #60
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I just opened the front banana wrap on my 73 and it looks identical to yours. I'm hammering out rock dents in the wrappers and wondering if I want to remove the entire belly. Were you just slithering around on your back to do all the work? What insulation are you using for new?
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Old 07-01-2014, 07:31 AM   #61
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I just opened the front banana wrap on my 73 and it looks identical to yours. I'm hammering out rock dents in the wrappers and wondering if I want to remove the entire belly. Were you just slithering around on your back to do all the work? What insulation are you using for new?
If you haven't pulled the belly pan yet to take a good look at the frame, then I would suggest you do. You just don't know what is down there in terms of rust and rot and its also a good idea to get rid of the old pink fiberglass that holds moisture up against the frame.

I used a mechanics creeper to roll on, the trailer sits on a concrete apron besides the garage. You could also put some cardboard or plywood down, especially if the trailer is sitting on grass or gravel.

For insulation I used some closed cell foam board that I got at HD. I used 3/4" and doubled it up to 1.5" for an R value of about 8. It is held up with 2" decking screws and fender washers that go into the subfloor. I think it does a pretty good job and it wont hold any moisture against the frame. It may help make the trailer a bit quieter too, but thats subjective.

One bit of advice though, be careful if you are wirebrushing the rust on the frame while you are on your back. I was wearing wrap around safety glasses and still managed to get a small speck of rust in my left eye. It was not a fun experience and not cheap either with what they charge for specialist copays.
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Old 07-01-2014, 02:47 PM   #62
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For insulation I used some closed cell foam board that I got at HD. I used 3/4" and doubled it up to 1.5" for an R value of about 8. It is held up with 2" decking screws and fender washers that go into the subfloor.
As a penny-pinching add-on comment, I recommend using small scrap aluminum squares with 1/8 holes drilled in the center, in place of fender washers, if available. They worked great for me.

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Great pictures. Great information. Can't start that kind of project till spring,snow & cold in Indiana. This forum and people are great. Jim & Teach.
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Old 02-04-2015, 06:26 AM   #64
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Bob, can you tell me where I can purchase ceramiflex coating?

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Old 02-04-2015, 06:57 AM   #65
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I ordered it through a roofing supplies distributor in Norfolk. Comes in a 5 gallon bucket and is not cheap, but worth it in my book. I think you can call the company that makes it and they can tell you who sells it in your area.
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Old 02-04-2015, 08:03 AM   #66
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Bob, can you tell me where I can purchase ceramiflex coating?

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Yeah, It only comes in 5 gal. This is enough for 3 or 4 Airstreams. You also have to use their acid etching primer. This comes in one gallon buckets. The system also has an optional finish coat.
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Old 02-04-2015, 04:11 PM   #67
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Yeah, It only comes in 5 gal. This is enough for 3 or 4 Airstreams. You also have to use their acid etching primer. This comes in one gallon buckets. The system also has an optional finish coat.
Yes, it can do 2-3 Airstreams. Unless they have changed things up since I bought it about 2 years ago, there is no primer necessary. And there was no finish coat. It's been on the roof for 2 years now and no real problems with chalking or breakdown, though it does darken up with dirt over time and can either be recoated or at least scrubbed down with a soft bristle brush.

Here is a link to the product pdf from their website: http://sealoflex.com/pdf/Ceramiflex.pdf

This is a commercial roofing product that just happens to work very well on an aluminum trailer roof. There are others that they and other manufacturers make.

Side note: When I googled "Ceramiflex", the first return was my original posting on airforums. Whoda thunk it. http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j...85142067,d.cWc
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Thanks Bob I will give them a call.
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