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Old 07-19-2004, 10:47 PM   #15
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Paint is like booze.

The higher on the shelf, the better it is.

The lower on the shelf, rot gut, not good unless you don't care.

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OH!! You mean to make sure I don't buy the cheap ****. Right?

Hmmm.... Well, when it comes to booze, I buy the good stuff... SO, How much for the Zolotone?
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Old 07-19-2004, 10:50 PM   #16
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Got pics?

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We cleaned the walls with hot soapy water, then dried them. We put on two coats of Behr Semi-gloss.

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Got any pics of the finished product? The wife might want to see what it looks like before I do it. hehe...
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Old 07-21-2004, 11:02 AM   #17
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Zolotone prices depend on the color.

A gallon can run from about $100.00 to over $125.00.

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Old 07-21-2004, 11:09 AM   #18
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Does the Zolotone have to be sprayed on or is it just best to do so? They have some really cool finishes.
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Old 07-21-2004, 11:35 AM   #19
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Does the Zolotone have to be sprayed on or is it just best to do so?
It has to be sprayed on....that's what creates the 'splattered' look...

The original Zolatone used by Airstream is the solvent based...but the acrylic based are easier for the lay-person to work with.

Water Based - Zolatone Application Spec
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Old 07-21-2004, 03:14 PM   #20
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Zolotone prices depend on the color.

A gallon can run from about $100.00 to over $125.00.

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YIKES! Suddenly, a nice can of Behr semi-gloss off-white is sounding rather nice.
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But "if" you want it to look "right' you have to pay the price, sooner, or later.

With the sooner, it's done.

With the later, you will do it over again, because it didn't hold up.

House paint is for houses. They don't get 140 to 150 degrees, or more, on the inside, like an Airstream can, and does.

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Old 10-17-2004, 07:27 PM   #22
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Question, Andy...

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House paint is for houses. They don't get 140 to 150 degrees, or more, on the inside, like an Airstream can, and does.

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So Andy, are you saying Zolatone is a better choice than house paint? If so I'd pay the money for a couple of gallons.

I was having illusions of the interior aluminum like Tin Can Luv did but with the amount of work ahead and wanting to use the thing sooner rather than later, I'm thinking spraying on Zolatone again would be a better idea. I also looked at the website and decided it would look good after all, and be less maintenance than aluminum veneer.
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Zolatone has proven itself far better than any water based paint. I found that out myself as I began stripping the paint on my interior - the water based paint comes right off, Zolatone stays put. In the alternative, you can use a good quality automotive type paint - thats what zolatone - and then they add those "balloons" that give the speckeled look when sprayed. Let me know what you decide to do and how it works out - I'll be painting in the spring.

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Old 10-18-2004, 01:59 AM   #24
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Zolatone has proven itself far better than any water based paint. I found that out myself as I began stripping the paint on my interior - the water based paint comes right off, Zolatone stays put. In the alternative, you can use a good quality automotive type paint - thats what zolatone - and then they add those "balloons" that give the speckeled look when sprayed. Let me know what you decide to do and how it works out - I'll be painting in the spring.

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Thanks, I had a feeling. We are probably not going to do the aluminum veneer, so we're going to probably paint for sure, and since it's gutted now, we want to paint it ONCE and never have to again, and not have problems with it coming off. No appliance pullouts to repaint. I hated the zolatone at first when I saw it, but given the labor intensive other options, and after seeing the stuff when it's freshly put on, I think we're going to do it. I won't make shortcuts, I like to do it right, so Zolatone it is if it's that durable.

Let me know also how your painting goes. Or just post so I can view it, I'm reading Uwe's and your threads as you go and you both have been really a big help.

I finally took off part of the belly pan and one side of banana wrap, also removed the plastic stuff on the wheel wells, I'm not sure if the PO had that stuff on it or if it was original to the AS. But I'm so proud of myself! I put pictures on my website.

Next I'm removing all the stuff on the inside, taking off the rest of the belly pan, and getting ready for putting in a new floor with Uwe's guidance. It'll be a shell-on replacement (I HOPE!)

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Got any pics of the finished product? The wife might want to see what it looks like before I do it. hehe...
It has been three years since we painted the walls in our trailer. We live in Texas and our trailer is in the heat in the summer. The semi-gloss paint looks as fresh today as the day we put it on.

We will send pictures. Hopefully this paint will look this good for the next three years.

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To better clarify what I said - water based paint is being used a lot very successfully. It is not as durable as Zolatone - I suspect water based paint will have to be updated after period of time - which is probably not a big deal, whereas Zolatone can last 40+ years if its taken care of. My 59 Traveler had its original zolatone paint that was in perfect condition. I've seen many old trailers with zolatone in great condition. I also know that come have used rustolem with great results. I would think that fits in somewhere between Zolatone and water based paints.

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I'm not into experimenting myself.....

But.
Any of you guys looked at using hammerite paint? See it here:
http://www.masterchem.com/pages/default.aspx?NavID=44
Especially look at the silver gray color...... seems to me it would make a dynamite interior look.... hmmmmmm

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hmmmmm is right! Good to know about that one.

The 40 years comment on the Zolatone is exactly why I want to use it. I want to give this trailer to my daughter to use when she has kids (hopefully), and we plan to really use it heavily when it's done. That's the same reason we're putting POR15 on the frame instead of something cheaper...but there may be parts we can use other brands on, so it's good to know that both options are there.

I'm told when you actually get the trailer closed in and done, i.e. new floor in and shell firmly reattached, doing the inside is actually pretty fun. That's good news to hear...crawling underneath is sweaty and I'd like to be finally putting things *on* instead of ripping them *out*.

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