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Old 04-18-2005, 08:23 PM   #1
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New Project

We have a new project in mind and we could use a little help with the advanced study.
I am looking for dimensional information on 1960, 70 and 80 model trailers.
I need to see where the various non-movable items are located in a trailer.
Things like the physical position of the doors and their width, position of the windows and wheel wells..
CAD drawings or something with dimensions would be what I'm looking to find.
Any help out there?
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Old 04-18-2005, 08:33 PM   #2
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Gary,

No help other than to mention that when they built them (50, 70, or 80) The only thing that was fixed is where the door is because of the way the C channel has to be planned for the gap.

I remember seeing somewhere that Airstream skins the WHOLE shell, ten cuts the windows in. So they could be moved if you have exterior skin to either fill in or replace the entire side sheet.

I believe that the door and the tank locations are the only engineered in items in the frame/shell combo. Remember the tank location and capacity have a bearing on the location of the axles to effect the tongue weight.
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Old 04-19-2005, 07:11 AM   #3
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Talking 76 manual

I have a PDF file of a '76 Airstream manual. PM me with your E-mail address if the example attached helps, there are several pages I can send you?

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Old 04-19-2005, 02:14 PM   #4
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I'm biting...

Gary, I remember a while ago, Gerbelmania (sp?) had posted pics of his trailer (I believe it was 70's ish 25-26ft) that he had created in a Cad/Cam program. He did offer to email the disk and data on it to various people. Maybe he can help?

Now the project..... if I'm reading yours (and Janet's) mind right, you want to re-create a 25ft CCD? (with a ADA shower, of course!) What do you guys have in mind?
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Old 04-19-2005, 04:07 PM   #5
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Hi Marc,

I think you mean Gerbermania, he has a real cool CAD Drawing as Avatar...

If anyone has a CAD File, I am looking for CAD Files too.

Greetings from Germany

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Old 04-19-2005, 04:37 PM   #6
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really rough draft

Ok - here it is really rough - we need a 25 footer for this and a sack full of money. The idea is to have good social space, roomy wetbath and decent bed.

We saw a rear entry argosy a few years ago with a L dinette (table removable) - it was great! Gary says he's up for new holding tanks and pocket doors ....
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Ok - here it is really rough - we need a 25 footer for this and a sack full of money. The idea is to have good social space, roomy wetbath and decent bed.

We saw a rear entry argosy a few years ago with a L dinette (table removable) - it was great! Gary says he's up for new holding tanks and pocket doors ....
I have a couple of files I can send ya, I just PM'd the Mr.

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cool...

Janet - do you guys want measurements on a 26ft Argosy? I think I know where one may be!
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Old 04-19-2005, 08:43 PM   #9
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Red face The way it should be.

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Janet - do you guys want measurements on a 26ft Argosy? I think I know where one may be!
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You Betcha, We re looking at all platforms at the moment.

On the way home from the rally last week end we were talking about trailer layouts and think we finally figured out what some of the problems are with trailer design.
It seems that the designers put a lot of emphasis on storage and kitchens
and always the end to end hallway. YUK! The bath rooms are always so small
and the beds not very user friendly.

We came up with the rough layout as shown in Janets post.
1.) Not a Park Model, only 25' Which gives you a 22' shell, very towable.
2.) A big bed room and bed, some thing you can get in and out of without having to crawl over each other.
3.) A large bathroom/ Wetbath, one were your knees don't hit the wall.
4.) The living space is large relative to the rest of the trailer with space for company to sit. The table mounts into the floor and can be removed to give additional seating for conversation.
5.) No Hallway from one end of the trailer to the other.
6.) The kitchen isn't all that big but it has all you need, Sink, Stove/Oven and Refer.

If the trailer manufacturers don't glom onto these ideas they are idiots.
Maybe...
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....we need a 25 footer for this and a sack full of money. The idea is to have good social space, roomy wetbath and decent bed....
Very nice layout Janet. It would be nice to do a CAD walk through somehow


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Old 04-19-2005, 10:01 PM   #11
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That's a great idea, I love the floorplan! The only problem I see with it is that much of the trailer design seems to revolve around dealing with the area where the wheelwells protrude into the living space. I think in your design the wheelwells would fall under the bath (which probably wouldn't be too bad), but it would get in the way of your entrance to the bedroom. Depends on exactly where it falls.
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Old 04-19-2005, 10:19 PM   #12
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We like it!

Guys, I'm really digging this layout. It's close to what I could do with our trailer.... Mona and I were looking to do something else with our layout ("while we were at it...."), and was contemplating the back bedroom idea. I'll measure my trailer this week and let you know. I wish I was a better draftsperson though.
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Old 04-19-2005, 10:23 PM   #13
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I was at Darol's today dropping off the Caravel and he had me take some pictures of his Excella for him. It's a 25' 1980 model I think. If it would help, I could probably take some measurements for you when I go pick up the Caravel later this week. Let me know.

Don't know where you are going to find the sack of money though
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Old 04-19-2005, 10:29 PM   #14
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let's see if this works...

Gerbermania's photos (cad/cam work)

Neat stuff!
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