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Old 04-19-2005, 11:18 PM   #15
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Ok - here it is really rough - we need a 25 footer for this and a sack full of money. The idea is to have good social space, roomy wetbath and decent bed.

We saw a rear entry argosy a few years ago with a L dinette (table removable) - it was great! Gary says he's up for new holding tanks and pocket doors ....
Hello Janet,

While your drawing looks very nice, it does have one major flaw - you forgot the huge wheel wells of the 25ft double axle trailers.
Right where your walkway veres to the streetside would be the rear end of the streetside wheel well. Hence, the central hallway feel of the 70's trailers.
Not only are the weel wells substantially bigger than on single axle trailers, they are also pretty far back.
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Old 04-19-2005, 11:36 PM   #16
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we thought some about that - we were thinking of having a half high storage cabinet in that hall space - streetside - It would mostly cover wheel wells - hall doen't need to be 2 wide. - same in bath - mount toilet in corner and sink over wheels - just a thought.
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Old 04-20-2005, 12:02 AM   #17
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we thought some about that - we were thinking of having a half high storage cabinet in that hall space - streetside - It would mostly cover wheel wells - hall doen't need to be 2 wide. - same in bath - mount toilet in corner and sink over wheels - just a thought.
I love your idea, and was close to doing it to our Tradewind 2 years ago, until I started measuring things, and kept running into the wheel wells.
You "might" get away with this if you get a 70's Overlander, since this gives you about a foot more room to the rear.

I am doing the half height storage cabinet over the wheel well in the Overlander project, with a 6in shelf above the window with lights underneath.

Have you thought about doing a front bedroom? It's very easy to add windows to the rear for more air and light.
Either way, it would be a huge project, not impossible, just a lot of work.
There's stuff everywhere in these trailers, which most of it would have to be relocated.
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Old 04-20-2005, 10:39 AM   #18
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I don't think you could do a front bedroom without doing the bed against the wall, like a 22 CCD. Otherwise you would open the door and the bed would be right there. Otherwise that would help put the wheelwells under cabinets and the dinette, where they wouldn't be in the way. It's an interesting idea. You need one of those rear-door Argosys!

I love your layout. To me the bigger trailers waste a lot of space in storage. I'm sure if you're living in it, you can't have enough storage, but the way we use ours, we don't need so much. I hate the way mid-bedrooms models with a double have a wall of cabinets across from the bed. Seems like overkill to me.
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To me the bigger trailers waste a lot of space in storage. I'm sure if you're living in it, you can't have enough storage, but the way we use ours, we don't need so much. I hate the way mid-bedrooms models with a double have a wall of cabinets across from the bed. Seems like overkill to me.
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How can you waste space in storage? I guess I don't understand your idea.
We have the wall of cabs across from the bed, and ( my wife) need every inch of it. The built in dresser with the pull out drawer bins is very handy.
It's nice to keep things in the trailer at all times, and just bring your food and take off. No suitcase or duffle bags, no clutter.
I guess it depends, too, on where you go. This wall of cabinets fills up quickly if you need to bring down jackets or extra blankets, or even hiking and biking gear.
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I agree with Stef.... most 25 - 28 footers I've seen have way more storage than we need. We don't fulltime, usually going for a few days at a time or a week. We have, in our minuet, almost enough storage now. Although - if we had more I could go shopping.... hmm...
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See, lack of storage saves you from wasting your time shopping

I find plenty of storage in the Caravel, even when we were out for two weeks. I guess we just must be minimalist packers! When I see those big cabinets in a 25 I think that's good space that could be another seating/lounging area.
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Our main storage hassle is stowing 2 or 3 guitars in hard cases - currently we put them in the shower - not good. The lift up bed would provide storage for over sized items.
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Old 04-20-2005, 08:59 PM   #23
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I love your idea, and was close to doing it to our Tradewind 2 years ago, until I started measuring things, and kept running into the wheel wells.
You "might" get away with this if you get a 70's Overlander, since this gives you about a foot more room to the rear.

I am doing the half height storage cabinet over the wheel well in the Overlander project, with a 6in shelf above the window with lights underneath.

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I'm trying to get a feel for this problem, could you expand your comments on this?
What did you mean you kept running into the wheel wells?
Was the problem with half height cabinets over the wheel wells, or something else?
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I'm trying to get a feel for this problem, could you expand your comments on this?
What did you mean you kept running into the wheel wells?
Was the problem with half height cabinets over the wheel wells, or something else?
My comment references Janet's floor plan. Your hallway will have a wheel well in it. The drawing does not show the wheel wells on both sides.
I had plans to move the bedroom to the back of the Tradewind, and create a center bath/perhaps wet bath. Either way I laid it out, the hallway always ended up midship. you can vere right or left a little, but not along the wall as shown in your drawing, which is unfortunate, because that would look and flow very nicely.
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gary, draw a faint line on the street side accross from the door to the bathroom should be about 14 inches from the wall ... aprox. this will help visualize where the wheel well would be... I think this is what the others are having trouble with ...
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we looked at alot of trailers this spring and as a matter of fact you can go to their web-sites and down load the floor plans into your documents then bring them up and cut an past untill you find your perfect plan... take the measurments of the floor including the wheel well then fit that...I agree with stephanie you could also look for a rear door argosy... that would be cool to modify....
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Our main storage hassle is stowing 2 or 3 guitars in hard cases - currently we put them in the shower - not good. The lift up bed would provide storage for over sized items.
I have the queen bed and stow either a banjo or a tenor guitar. You can probably get 3 guitars if you omit any drawers under the bed. Unfortunately, you would have no space for much of anything else under there. I carry the BBQ grill, charcoal, folding table, boots, propane lantern, etc. under there.

Last year, when I bought a new tenor guitar, I could not fit it in with my banjo on the way home.

My queen bed has two drawers under and one instrument case goes a long way toward using up the remaining space.
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I recall someone reminding me of weight distribution. Something along the lines of the appliances, cupboards and all being placed to minimize stress on the shell and frame??? I'm no engineer but it sort of makes sense.
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