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Old 03-14-2009, 10:58 AM   #15
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Hey,thanks for the responses. Those are some interesting possibilities. Check back on Sunday afternoon, I'll have some photos posted by then-I'm out of town all day tomorrow. Also, anybody who knows where I can get the original range from this trailer (1962 Overlander) either refurbished or replaced, that would be a huge help. One more thing-did the original linoleum tiles in trailers of this vintage contain asbestos? I was pretty careful tearing them out, but I hadn't intended to remove the ones that were under the cabinets & gauchos.
Our 62 Ambassador had a catalytic heater installed in the floor right in front of the stove. The heater extended through the floor and through the belly pan. We removed it and had to patch the plywood prior to putting in a new floor. I am pretty sure that the tiles are asbestos, I believe that if they are 9" tiles they certainly contain asbestos.
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Old 03-14-2009, 09:12 PM   #16
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Hi, and thanks for all the thoughts so far. My thinking on the tiles was that they were linoleum; good suggestion,though, to take them to an expert in older flooring products. I did manage to get over to the trailer today and get a few pictures of the hole. Let me know what you think. The first picture is from the door of the trailer. The empty cabinet on the left is where the stove was. The second is a view of the bottom of the trailer looking up at the vent; the rusty pieces are sliding bolts. The third one is with the wooden plug in place. The other two are of the hole with the structural crossmembers running through it. The metal visible at the bottom of the hole is the inside of the closed hatch. I would have liked to have taken a few shots of the hatch open, but a previous owner has put some screws in to shut it permanently, and I'm not ready to try to remove them yet.
The dimensions of the hole are 15"L x 12-3/4" W x 5" Deep.

Thanks again, Marika

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Old 03-14-2009, 10:27 PM   #17
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Smile Hole in the floor

I know what the hole is for. It was the topic on an episode of CSI:Miami. The bad guys used an Airstream trailer to drive over the cover of an underground gasoline tank at a gas station. A hose was lowered through the hole in the trailer into the gasoline tank and they pumped out a trailer load of gasoline and drove off with no one the wiser. When gasoline was $4.00 a gallon this was a good haul. Made a good story but Horatio saw through it in no time. Of course, there were a bunch of good looking girls involved.
I think there is a thread about this somewhere in the forum.
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Old 03-15-2009, 12:47 AM   #18
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Just an idea - I've seen a couple of Airstreams for sale in recent years that talked about having holes cut in the floor to allow use for ice fishing. Maybe that's a possibility here, because it looks like the hole was added after the trailer left the factory by the way the sides wrap over the floor tiles. Also, if the "converter" wasn't too swift, he may not have located frame members before cutting, thus explaining them being in the middle of the hole.
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Old 03-15-2009, 07:04 AM   #19
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Would a vent have a trapdoor at the bottom and aluminum trim around the top opening?
I would think a vent placed in the floor could. The trapdoor is the same as a vent cover on the top of the unit, closed during tow and storage to keep road debris, water, and rodents out. The top cove same function or installed when what ever purpose the vent served was not used anymore. Of course the aluminum trim gives it away it is a cat door.
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Old 03-15-2009, 07:07 AM   #20
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Siverjunkie what are the 3 black circles, the top two look like the could be roach bait traps the one in the trim looks like a grommet which power may have come in at which makes me think fan or ac unit. I have had a couple of designs in my head about adding a window unit to a trailer and they all involved a venting port.
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Let me add the aluminum trim would keep the insulation between the warp and the floor in place.

Removing asbestos tile is not to bad you may want to do a search on approved methods. If I remember correctly you have to be sure it doesn't become friable. This basically means keep it moist, I think custom solutions are made for this and wear protection especially a respirator. Double bag removed tiles and the debris must go to a designated land fill. If in doubt treat it as asbestos. Check you local area regulations.
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Old 03-15-2009, 09:21 AM   #22
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Jim,
You are correct, friable is the key word. Check out this site for some answers and explanations....

What is Friable Asbestos?

I think the mystery cubby hole is a smugglers hold.
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My 62' Ohio Safari original tiles were not asbestos type. I brought a section to a professional flooring person carefully wrapped in a plastic bag sure that he would confirm my worst fears. The toxic hazemat extraction of 45 year old tiles of death.
He said no they were not. I had stressed over this same thought for six months thinking this could be the biggest downside of restoration. So take a piece to someone that knows older products.
The only way to be sure that there is no asbestos contained in any product manufactured prior to the mid-70's is to have a sample tested at a lab that is certified to test for asbestos. Asbestos fibers are microscopic. No one can just look a sample and say for sure that there is no asbestos in the material.
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Hi; FYI-I sent a sample of the 9" x 9" tile to a lab. The tile itself was not asbestos, but it turns out that the adhesive used to hold it down contained 1-3% asbestos! It was a much worse job than removing tile, as I had to get a solvent and apply it to the (dry & crumbly) adhesive left on the floor, then scrape it up when it got soft. I had to wear a respirator, eye protection, chemical resistant gloves, rubber boots, and a tyvek coverall. It took about six hours to scape up all the adhesive and wipe down the floor with mineral spirits, and I only was sworking with about 80 square feet. Ah, the joys of renovation. Marika
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You were wise to have the material tested. Asbestos is a spiral fiber. Because of its shape is made an excellent reinforcement for many materials including mastics. It would have a certain stretchability in the material making the mastic flexible and strong.

I renovated a house after a kitchen fire a few years ago that was built in the '50s. There was three layers of vinyl floor in the kitchen. The bottom layer of vinyl tile was held down with asbestos containing mastic. We had to use an asbestos removal company to remove the kitchen floor. A lot of work for a small amount of flooring.
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