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09-25-2009, 01:32 PM
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Rivet Master
1978 29' Ambassador
1974 25' Tradewind
1974 27' Overlander
Indiana
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Krylon Fusion Paint?
Has anyone had experience with Krylon's Fusion paint? The can says it is paint designed specifically for plastic. I'm wondering how this would work on the ends (inside of course) of my Airstream. What prep work should be done? Thanks!
Bob
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09-25-2009, 01:54 PM
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Rivet Master
2005 30' Classic
Burlington
, Ontario
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 2,743
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Roadrunner
Has anyone had experience with Krylon's Fusion paint? The can says it is paint designed specifically for plastic. I'm wondering how this would work on the ends (inside of course) of my Airstream. What prep work should be done? Thanks!
Bob
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Bob,
I think its success is heavily related to the type of plastic used.
I used it on a new plastic cartop carrier that I bought to use on a motorcyle trailer to pull behind my bike.
The carrier was made from polyethylene plastic as I recall. I contacted Krylon before trying it on this new carrier and they said it would work.
I followed their instructions to the letter, but adhesion was not good. The lightest scrape would take the paint off - ie a thumbnail!
Rather than scrape all the stuff off, I just carry a spray can along on tripsd and touch it up as needed!
Had I known, I would not never have used it. May be fine on some other types of plastic, I think if here was any way of trying it first on similar material or in an area where it wouldn't be seen, I would certainly try that first.
Hope it works for you better than it did for me! I have heard of other people having good results with it.
I noticed on spraycans I have bought more recently, there has been a subtle change in the wording it used to say "Works on all plastics" now, it says
"Works on most plastics" I'm sure the change was made for a reason!
Brian.
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2005 Classic 30'
Hensley Arrow / Centramatics
2008 GMC Sierra SLT 2500HD,4x4,Crew Cab, Diesel, Leer cap.
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09-25-2009, 01:54 PM
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Rivet Master
1994 30' Excella
alexandria
, Kentucky
Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 2,320
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I used this paint about 2 or 3 years ago on the interior of a car to repaint an under dash air conditioning unit. I can't remember the prep but the project turned out good and the paint is still holding up. You may also look at SEM brand paints found at an automotive paint store or possibly on line. I have also had good luck with these also (SEM has more colors to choose from). They have cleaners for prepping the plastic, vinyls and leather surfaces.
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09-25-2009, 02:19 PM
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Rivet Master
1972 31' Sovereign
Lexington
, Minnesota
Join Date: Feb 2009
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I had very good luck with Krylon Fusion and plastic, but I'm not sure exactly what kind of plastic. I think it was a white styrene. I painted them last year, and no wear issues at all. For the inside end caps, I would try a sample someplace first (if you can) before painting the whole end cap. In my 71, the front end cap was ABS, and the rear is fiberglass.
Chris
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09-25-2009, 02:25 PM
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Rivet Master
San Angelo
, Texas
Join Date: May 2005
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Krylon Fusion is a good product, however you MUST prep the surface you're painting, whether you're painting on new plastic or old plastic.
There is only one way to make paint stick to plastic..Clean Clean Clean, Sand Sand Sand, Clean Clean Clean.
To start, thoroughly wash the plastic down with a degreaser/soap. TSP works well for this.
1) Sand the entire plastic surface with 180 Grit DRY.
2) Take 320 Grit WET over the entire surface until smooth with no shine.
3) Wipe the whole surface down with a pre-paint wax and grease remover and let dry.
4) Spray with Krylon Fusion and put 2 thin/medium coats on, letting the paint flash 10 minutes between coats .. Let dry.
Now, if you're incredibly OCD about your project looking super professional, here are some more steps:
1) Mist the surface with a cheap black paint as a guide coat and sand the entire surface with 400 or 600 Grit wet sand paper.
2) Thoroughly wash and rinse let air dry.
3) Final scuff with a red scotch pad and a final scuff paste, to get in all the cracks and crevices good.
7) Wipe down with pre-paint wax and grease remover again.
8) Spray with Krylon Fusion one last time, 2 thin/medium coats, again letting the paint flash for 10 minutes between coats. Let dry.
You should have a quality paint job that will last you a long time.
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1971 Sovereign International - SOLD
2004 F-350 King Ranch
AIR # 8239
EX-WBCCI # 8371
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09-25-2009, 02:38 PM
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4 Rivet Member
Join Date: Jul 2002
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I just got off the phone with Krylon's technical support and they informed me that the Fusion paint is more for interior craft type applications. She highly recommended that I look into the Duplicolor (sister company) automotive type paints in conjunction with the CP1999 Adhesion Promoter. I am going to pick up a can of the promoter as well as some metallic paint (maybe the chrome finish) to try on my new Fantastic-Vent vintage style covers.
http://www.airforums.com/forums/f91/vent-wiring-in-56-ish-31314.html#post751843
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09-25-2009, 02:45 PM
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Rivet Master
Join Date: Mar 2003
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Hi Roadrunner, this one is on me.........
But how does it work on the end caps?
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09-25-2009, 02:47 PM
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4 Rivet Member
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Correct me if I'm wrong here, but the end caps are fiberglass, not plastic.
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09-25-2009, 02:58 PM
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Rivet Master
1983 34' Excella
1967 24' Tradewind
Little Rock
, Arkansas
Join Date: Nov 2006
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Quote:
Originally Posted by toddster
Correct me if I'm wrong here, but the end caps are fiberglass, not plastic.
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Yes and no. Fiberglass in my Trade Wind, plastic in my Excella. The glass ones are superior in my opinion. Neither of them has any cracks despite being much older.
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09-25-2009, 03:02 PM
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Rivet Master
San Angelo
, Texas
Join Date: May 2005
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The front cap on ours is plastic....the bathroom rear cap is fiberglass.
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Frederic
1971 Sovereign International - SOLD
2004 F-350 King Ranch
AIR # 8239
EX-WBCCI # 8371
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09-25-2009, 03:06 PM
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Liberator
1972 Argosy 24
1989 34.5' Airstream 345
Heart of Dixie
, Alabama
Join Date: Sep 2006
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It worked good on the A/C covers inside, and the vents.
They had turned a yucky yellow.
Cleaned with brake cleaner before spraying, stuck good.
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1972 Argosy 24'...
1954 Feathercraft Vagabond
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09-25-2009, 04:35 PM
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4 Rivet Member
1975 31' Sovereign
Houston
, Texas
Join Date: Nov 2003
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Another thread on Krylon. here>>> http://www.airforums.com/forums/f446...tic-44931.html
My last post over there never answered. Any takers now?
How many cans to spray an end cap?
Stingray; What is "let flash for 10 minutes" ? i.e. what is definition of Flash in that context?
Stingray;Name that good wax & grease pre paint chemical please.
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09-25-2009, 06:37 PM
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Rivet Master
San Angelo
, Texas
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Distant Drummer,
Letting the paint flash is letting it dry, so that the 2nd coat will adhere to the 1st coat, without getting runny and without laying on top of it...think of the 2nd coat sticking to the 1st. Different paints have different flash times...weather and temperature also play a part in determining how long it takes for the paint to flash.
I like using Krud Kutter products for pre-paint cleaning/degreasing, but I always start out using TSP (Tri-Sodium Phosphate)...you can get it at your local hardware store
USE GLOVES!!!! TSP is nasty on the skin.
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1971 Sovereign International - SOLD
2004 F-350 King Ranch
AIR # 8239
EX-WBCCI # 8371
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09-25-2009, 06:40 PM
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Rivet Master
1978 29' Ambassador
1974 25' Tradewind
1974 27' Overlander
Indiana
, Pennsylvania
Join Date: Sep 2003
Posts: 677
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Is there an easy way to distinguish between a plastic endcap and a fiberglass endcap?
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09-25-2009, 06:47 PM
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Rivet Master
San Angelo
, Texas
Join Date: May 2005
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Well, I found out that our bathroom endcap was fiberglass, when I drilled into it to add a shower curtain track.
I know the front cap is plastic, because it's cracked in a spot.
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Frederic
1971 Sovereign International - SOLD
2004 F-350 King Ranch
AIR # 8239
EX-WBCCI # 8371
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09-25-2009, 07:07 PM
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TorpedoFamily
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2014 30' Classic
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Ozark
, Alabama
Join Date: Nov 2002
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Sem Paint
Sem paint is the BEST for painting plastic, leather, fabric, ie,. I painted the complete bathroom on my Argosy including the shower. It was great, adhears well.
SEM Products - SEM Products is their web site. Try it, you will like it.
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09-25-2009, 11:25 PM
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aluminauti
Where we
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Krylon's great in certain applications
We used the Krylon Plastic Fusion paint to revitalize the cabinet door latches on our '75 24' Argosy. The catches worked but were badly faded. At $15+ each for replacements, I bought a can of dark brown Fusion, painted each with 8 thin spray layers.
Did this over a year ago & the paint remains solid & free of chips.
Most of the latches are used on a regular basis & we've camped in the trailer about 4 months total in the past year.
The latches had a rough surface initially & I cleaned with TSP & acetone.
Our Argosy's interior endcaps are ABS & yellowed. Will probably use Krylon on these although we've seen these ABS endcaps successfully painted with a latex enamel.
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09-27-2009, 11:40 AM
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2 Rivet Member
1974 31' Sovereign
Tallahassee
, Florida
Join Date: Nov 2005
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I applied white Fusion paint to both end caps to my 1974 Airstream in 2006. I cleaned the surfaces. I believe I used turpentine. I did not do extensive sanding of the surfaces. There is a problem with over spray with Fusion. My trailer was empty. Cover all surfaces in the room to avoid coating them with a mist of this paint. This product worked will in my hands for both of the interior end caps. I have experienced no pealing or yellowing.
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09-27-2009, 01:55 PM
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Rivet Master
2000 31' Land Yacht
Central
, Florida
Join Date: Aug 2007
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Quote:
Originally Posted by toddster
I just got off the phone with Krylon's technical support and they informed me that the Fusion paint is more for interior craft type applications.
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I didn't call or check, I just needed to change a black tool box to white, used on my boat deck for 4 yrs and it is still was white.
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09-27-2009, 02:11 PM
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2 Rivet Member
1989 25' Excella
1998 36' Land Yacht Widebody
Kimball
, Minnesota
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 71
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Krylon Fusion on my end caps
I have a "89 Excella with "plastic" end caps which had badly yellowed. When I had my couch and drapes out to be redone I repainted them with Krylon. I used a three step process 1. Cleaned with TSP 2. Wiped with acetone then 3. sprayed with Krylon. After 15 months, so far so good. A big concern is that I sure would not breath this stuff, is isn't healthy. I used a fresh air respirator. You also don't get much coverage from the cans, seems like it took 4 cans to do two coats on the end cap.
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