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06-23-2010, 08:55 PM
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2 Rivet Member
1968 30' Sovereign
Montgomery
, Texas
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 22
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How much is too much?
I just bought a 68 sovereign and I'm looking at fixing it up. It will have to have new upholstery on the couches and new flooring material of some sort (carpet, thinking of laminate wood)
The question is this: When it comes to restoring, how much is too much?
THIS sparked the question and while I think its adorable its prolly too much. I want to keep the my AS as original as possible ad still somehow make it my own. It makes me sad to see the ones that have been completely gutted and redone... I am also thinkin about practicality and resale value everyone does not have the same taste and the Magnolia Pearl prolly makes some of yall sick
What do yall think?
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06-23-2010, 09:07 PM
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Rivet Master
1956 22' Safari
2015 27' Flying Cloud
Vintage Kin Owner
Conifer/Evergreen
, Colorado
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 12,702
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To each their own...but...
Wow! That definitely is the definition of "TOO MUCH"... wa-a-a-a-y too much!
Yep, I'm one of the ones that "that" makes me sick...and I thought I had "flowers gone bad" in Birdy when we first got her!
Oh my...
Shari
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06-23-2010, 09:40 PM
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Rivet Master
1973 27' Overlander
Currently Looking...
Jupiter
, Florida
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 2,062
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In photo Nine there's a rainbow leak from the black tank...
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06-23-2010, 10:32 PM
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Rivet Master
2005 25' Safari
Salem
, Oregon
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 8,378
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Shiloh
The question is this: When it comes to restoring, how much is too much?
I am also thinking about practicality and resale value.
What do yall think?
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Hi, "How much is too much?" When you can't afford it or when you have to pay some-one else to do all of the work. As for resale; Build it for your use and enjoyment. What it's worth when your done with it shouldn't be a major concern. Pass it down to your children.
This is what I think about resale: It really bothers me to see people buy a brand new car, truck, trailer, or whatever and protect the seats with K-Mart seat covers so the next person to own it will have the privilege of sitting on those expensive leather seats that you paid dearly for. Let the second owner buy the cheap Pep-Boys seat covers to cover up what the original owner used. We plan to keep our vehicles for ten years and 100,000 miles, give or take; By then, I figured that I got my monies worth out of them and what ever I can sell them for is a bonus. Or I donate then to other family members.
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"Le Petit Chateau Argent" Small Silver Castle
2000 Navigator / 2014 F-150 Eco-Boost / Equal-i-zer / P-3
YAMAHA 2400 / AIR #12144
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06-24-2010, 12:46 AM
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3 Rivet Member
1959 24' Tradewind
The Grass Capital of the World
, Oregon
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 174
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fortune teller
I've been in that trailer! The fortune teller sat on a miniature pink elephant with wings and told me that one day a silver bubble would float to me and then I would care about nothing else in the world.
She told me if I ever entered the bubble that I would be mesmerized - that I would burn piles of money to keep warm inside the bubble while I watched the world float by. I laughed and said she was a crazy old bat with a stupid hat. She told me I was a fool and to pay the garden gnome before I left and her elephant punched me with his trunk.
Just thought I'd share. Spend your money how you see fit. If you look at it as an investment, you'll never get what you can truly get out of it.
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06-24-2010, 02:02 AM
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4 Rivet Member
1958 22' Flying Cloud
Folsom
, California
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 468
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I just threw up. But my wife thinks it is neat..
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06-24-2010, 06:19 AM
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Rivet Master
1978 31' Sovereign
Texas Airstream Harbor
, Zavalla, in the Deep East Texas Piney Woods on Lake Sam Rayburn
Join Date: Jan 2003
Posts: 2,435
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Shiloh
I just bought a 68 sovereign and I'm looking at fixing it up.
The question is this: When it comes to restoring, how much is too much?
... I am also thinkin about practicality and resale value everyone does not have the same taste ...What do yall think?
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Build it up the way YOU want it - you will pull it, you will camp in it, you will sleep in it.
Too many 60's and 70's Sovereigns around to worry about "keeping original" - and the question is...why would you want to?
It's YOUR time and money - do as little or as much as you want.
Check out some of these threads listed in this link to observe first hand the definition of Obsessive/Compulsive:
http://www.airforums.com/forums/f44/...ons-35399.html
The single most imortant thing to do in a rebuild is to insure that the frame/floor/shell interface is competent and robust. Spend A LOT of time researcheng "floor repair" or "floor replacement" here in the Forums prior to commencing your work.
If you don't start with a solid foundation you will truely be pi$$ing your "restore" money away.
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"Suck it up, spend the bucks, do it right the first time."
WBCCI # 1113
AirForums #1737
Trailer '78 31' Sovereign
Living Large at an Airstream Park on the Largest Lake Totally Contained in Texas
Texas Airstream Harbor, Inc.
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06-24-2010, 06:48 AM
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Rivet Master
1956 22' Flying Cloud
1953 32' Liner
1955 22' Safari
Valley View
, Texas
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 3,971
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See what happens...?
This is what happens when "they" move from the West Coast to the Hill Country of Texas. It ain't pretty. Wish they went away and took the Texas plate off the rosey car and Airstream so as not to reflect badly upon others. I think some of their "kitchey taste" rubbed off on the group of Gals in Montgomery, TX......where their Airstream decorating has the resemblance to an accident where an Airstream crashed into the tourist shops of Nuevo Progresso, Mexico....cheap colorful fluff stuck all over it..
BUT....87mph has it right..."It's YOUR time and money - do as little or as much as you want."
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"If it can't be reduced, reused, repaired, rebuilt, refurbished, refinished, resold, recycled or composted
then it should be restricted, redesigned or removed from production."
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06-24-2010, 07:24 AM
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3 Rivet Member
2006 25' Safari FB SE
Peoria
, Arizona
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 228
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It reminds me of the inside of an "I Dream of Jeannie" bottle. To each his own. Trailers are to be used and enjoyed exactly as you see fit. I wouldn't worry at all about resale unless it were a valued collector's item.
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2007.5 Dodge 2500 5.9L Cummins 16+ mpg towing
4CU
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06-24-2010, 02:34 PM
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2 Rivet Member
1968 30' Sovereign
Montgomery
, Texas
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 22
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I cant imagine actually doing anything in that trailer much less living in it. (Which is the plan for mine)
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06-24-2010, 03:35 PM
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Rivet Master
1965 28' Ambassador
Irving
, Texas
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 604
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Melody Ranch
This is what happens when "they" move from the West Coast to the Hill Country of Texas. It ain't pretty. Wish they went away and took the Texas plate off the rosey car and Airstream so as not to reflect badly upon others. I think some of their "kitchey taste" rubbed off on the group of Gals in Montgomery, TX......where their Airstream decorating has the resemblance to an accident where an Airstream crashed into the tourist shops of Nuevo Progresso, Mexico....cheap colorful fluff stuck all over it..
BUT....87mph has it right..."It's YOUR time and money - do as little or as much as you want."
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Must be that Miranda Lambert Airstream
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06-24-2010, 03:56 PM
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Site Team
1974 31' Sovereign
Ottawa
, ON
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 11,219
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AZ-JH
It reminds me of the inside of an "I Dream of Jeannie" bottle. To each his own. Trailers are to be used and enjoyed exactly as you see fit. I wouldn't worry at all about resale unless it were a valued collector's item.
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egg-ZACKly! Gotta love them "I Dream of Genie" bottle interiors!
Quote:
Originally Posted by bwaysteve
Must be that Miranda Lambert Airstream
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Ooooh... Now SHE is PURdeee!
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06-24-2010, 06:02 PM
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Rivet Master
1995 30' Limited
Ashland
, Missouri
Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 2,610
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Somebody loves it, and that's all that really matters, isn't it? ~G
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1995 Airstream Classic Limited 30' ~ Gypsy
1978 Argosy Minuet, 6.0~Minnie/GPZWGN
Chev Silverado 2500HD Duramax/Allison, 4X4, Crew Cab
WBCCI #5013 AIR #2908
WDCU
Go, Mizzou...Tigers on the prowl!
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06-24-2010, 08:30 PM
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Rivet Master
Join Date: Mar 2003
Posts: 2,190
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First things first...last things last
brakes, bearings, and black rubber first
curtains, cushions, and carpet..... last
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07-08-2010, 06:22 PM
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4 Rivet Member
1956 16' Bubble
Dallas
, Oregon
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 364
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money for nothing
everything cost more than you think--my first advice:
BY NICE NOT TWICE!!!!!!
secondly--i doubt you will ever make money fixing up a trailer and selling it. not just because of the expensive materials--but the time. you'd make more working at mcdonalds. but make it as nice as you can afford if you plan to use it. if not--i'd sell it "as is" and call it good. i'm half way though my 1956 bubble rebuild and have 5 grand into it already. but i won't end up with a porta potty interior either! have fun.
ted
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07-08-2010, 06:32 PM
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Rivet Master
Currently Looking...
asbury park
, New Jersey
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 905
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Quote:
i doubt you will ever make money fixing up a trailer and selling it. not just because of the expensive materials--but the time. you'd make more working at mcdonalds.
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i used this EXACT analogy elsewhere on the forums (i think) or explaining it to someone else. i have LITERALLY counted the man hours and assuming we could get a certain $$ amt when sold, deducted costs and came up with an hourly rate of like, $2.33 an hour.
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07-08-2010, 07:04 PM
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Rivet Master
Currently Looking...
asbury park
, New Jersey
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 905
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on another thought - so long as you dont commit a cardinal 'airstream' sin, like modifying the exterior by painting it, cutting it up and attaching it to a Toranado, or turning it into a trade show display- then you can do as you please
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07-14-2010, 12:29 AM
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4 Rivet Member
1963 19' Globetrotter
1967 17' Caravel
1974 29' Ambassador
Top of the 395
, British Columbia
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 389
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I am very close to finishing the interior of our 31 Int reno. It has cost about $5000 in materials so far, but will be pretty nice when complete. Then on to deal with cardinal sin #1, stripping the paint off the exterior! Anyone know where I can find a good deal on a 70s Toronado? I might need to mo-ho the beast... NOT!
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