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07-22-2010, 01:14 PM
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4 Rivet Member
1971 23' Safari
Groveport
, Ohio
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 279
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Gaucho vs Dinette - pros and cons
Hello all;
I am thinking about a change in the safari. Can I get any imput on are you happier with a change from goucho to dinette and why.
Thanks Robert
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07-22-2010, 02:16 PM
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Moderator
1968 17' Caravel
Battle Ground
, Washington
Join Date: Dec 2002
Posts: 12,255
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I adore our dinette, I can't imagine not having it. I love having the option to have a table, or breaking it down into a bed, or even leaving the table out entirely and using the space for a dog crate, whatever we need on that trip. Most of the time we use it as a table, but it's great to have the flexibility, especially in a tiny trailer where space is at a premium.
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07-22-2010, 02:27 PM
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Rivet Master
1956 22' Safari
2015 27' Flying Cloud
Vintage Kin Owner
Conifer/Evergreen
, Colorado
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 12,702
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I agree with Stef...for all the same reasons, we love the dinette we added in place of the gaucho in our GT.
Shari
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07-22-2010, 02:35 PM
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4 Rivet Member
1971 23' Safari
Groveport
, Ohio
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 279
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Thanks
Thanks for the quick replys;
I think a dinette would have to work better for me. As I hope to soon have a lady friend camping with me I think the change would have more bed space for two. Also when the children and I are camping a booth style table would work much better.
Robert
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07-22-2010, 02:36 PM
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Rivet Idiot
1999 34' Excella
Currently Looking...
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On The Lake
, Georgia
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 1,000
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Put one vote in for the gaucho! We love having a gaucho, it makes for a very "roomy" front area. We have 2 side fold up/down tables to use when eating. Or of course the gaucho folds down into a bed, and has great storage room underneath. And a comfortable spot to stretch out and watch tv or nap!
Annette
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08-20-2010, 08:35 AM
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2 Rivet Member
1972 25' Tradewind
Rockville
, Maryland
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 20
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OK, OK, so I'm a newbie. What is a gaucho? I must have one in my 77 Tradewind as I don't have a dinette, just a fold up and out table. I'm surmising that it is a sort of bed/couch that goes all the way across the front?
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08-20-2010, 08:41 AM
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Moderator
Vintage Kin Owner
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Quote:
Originally Posted by doctormark
OK, OK, so I'm a newbie. What is a gaucho? I must have one in my 77 Tradewind as I don't have a dinette, just a fold up and out table. I'm surmising that it is a sort of bed/couch that goes all the way across the front?
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A gaucho is a fold-out sofa.
Kevin
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08-20-2010, 09:56 AM
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Certainly Blessed
1971 27' Overlander
Waiting to Escape....
, Somewhere between sanity and insanity ... on the brink of both.
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 1,791
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We have a gaucho and will be traveling with two kids under 10 and two dogs. One dog is the size of human (Great Dane). The extra floor space provided by the gaucho and fold down table should be really nice during the day when we are all moving around in it.
However, we haven't tested out the trailer with the kids yet.... My daughter will sleep on the gaucho in couch mode and my son will sleep on a cot that folds away during the day. The smaller dog will sleep in the bedroom or bathroom area and the Dane will sleep in the kitchen area..... so we will see how it works.
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08-20-2010, 10:08 AM
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Rivet Master
1979 31' Sovereign
Milford
, Ohio
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 565
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When shopping for RV's I thought I'd really want both a sofa and a dinette. Our Airstream has only a gaucho, the fold-down expanding table, and two folding chairs. I wasn't sure how well that would work out but it turned out great.
Normally its just the two of us so the table is just folded out to the first position, leaving plenty of space in the living room. On the rare occasions that we have guests for dinner and can't eat outside, we'll get out the second folding chair and expand the table to seat four.
Christopher
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08-20-2010, 10:10 AM
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Silver Bullit
1985 25' Sovereign
Edmonton
, Alberta
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 94
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Dinette all the way
Nicki.
Here are a couple of photos of our before and after front end. We also have 2 kids and the setup we use works really well for them. And it allows all of us enough room to eat inside if the weather is not cooperating. There is also enough room for the whole family to sit at the front without getting in each others way. Good luck.
Tim
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08-20-2010, 10:14 AM
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Wise Elder
2010 30' Classic
Vintage Kin Owner
South of the river
, Minnesota
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 4,169
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A fact to consider is that a gaucho preserves floor space. The corners of a U dinette are not really usable for seating. With a gaucho and some folding chairs you can seat 5, with a dinette you may not be able to as comfortably, because 5 will not fit on the U and there is no floor space left for chairs.
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08-20-2010, 10:24 AM
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Usually Sleepy
1973 27' Overlander
East Haven
, Connecticut
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 1,155
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Quote:
Originally Posted by timmy67
Nicki.
Here are a couple of photos of our before and after front end. We also have 2 kids and the setup we use works really well for them. And it allows all of us enough room to eat inside if the weather is not cooperating. There is also enough room for the whole family to sit at the front without getting in each others way. Good luck.
Tim
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what did you do with all of this shelf/cabinet/table set up?
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08-20-2010, 11:05 AM
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Rivet Master
1979 30' Argosy
Havelock
, where we park it
Join Date: Jun 2003
Posts: 1,652
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Looks great.... much better use of space..
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Niki (fur baby)
1979 Argosy 30 (Costalotta)
WBCCI 10103
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08-20-2010, 11:33 AM
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Certainly Blessed
1971 27' Overlander
Waiting to Escape....
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Join Date: Jul 2010
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Very Vintage
Quote:
Originally Posted by timmy67
Nicki.
Here are a couple of photos of our before and after front end. We also have 2 kids and the setup we use works really well for them. And it allows all of us enough room to eat inside if the weather is not cooperating. There is also enough room for the whole family to sit at the front without getting in each others way. Good luck.
Tim
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Tim,
Absolutely Gorgeous!! Makes me drool!! Excellent workmanship.
However, our trailer is really vintage...really, really vintage. The only things done to the trailer before we got it was new white carpet installed and one gaucho cover replaced. Although, we will not be hunting up olive green shag carpet, we are trying to keep it as original as possible so long as it works for our family. And the Great Dane has a huge impact on how you use the space. He is not allowed on the furniture so floor space is at a premium.
We will be packing folding chairs for the other side of the table and we also have a rear gaucho for extra seating. Time will tell... until we really get out and use it we just don't know. I really do love what you've done!!
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08-20-2010, 01:09 PM
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Silver Bullit
1985 25' Sovereign
Edmonton
, Alberta
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 94
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Originally Posted by biggoofball
what did you do with all of this shelf/cabinet/table set up?
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Skip.
I still have the corner cabinet with tambour door but I turfed the gaucho. Not only was it dated but it had a curious smell about it.
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08-20-2010, 01:12 PM
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Silver Bullit
1985 25' Sovereign
Edmonton
, Alberta
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 94
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Thank you everyone else for the nice comments. It's coming along nicely and there will be some minor changes to the dinette in the near future.
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08-20-2010, 01:55 PM
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Rivet Master
1958 26' Overlander
Mesa
, Arizona
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 1,742
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Quote:
Originally Posted by timmy67
Nicki.
Here are a couple of photos of our before and after front end. We also have 2 kids and the setup we use works really well for them. And it allows all of us enough room to eat inside if the weather is not cooperating. There is also enough room for the whole family to sit at the front without getting in each others way. Good luck.
Tim
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Nice work, Tim.
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08-20-2010, 03:05 PM
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Rivet Master
2012 25' FB Eddie Bauer
Vintage Kin Owner
Virginia Beach
, Virginia
Join Date: Sep 2004
Posts: 7,801
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Taste
The end dinette is more comfortable than the side dinette. It has more leg room. Side dinettes are normally placed over wheel wells, which means the outside seats are comfortable for those under 4 feet tall. In newer units the widebody also comes into play in lengths of 25 feet or more; again being more generous size.
I have the 25 FB SE, and wrestle the dinette up and down as the fancy hits - it isn't hard, but one does risk snapping a fingernail, crushing said finger or skinning one's shin against the edge of the table.
I do a lot of work on my computer and sew, and I find the dinette table a tad too high to be comfortable for either. I played with lowering the dinette by using a "side lift" hydraulic arm, but it wasn't sturdy enough to sew with a serger, so I took it out.
I saw a rare-ish 31' model Colonial was selling one time which stongly appealed to me. The table was attached to a groove along the side wall and there were four folding chairs. It could be moved back and forth several feet or taken down completely. I like that flexibility.
I've been playing with the idea of replacing the dinette with two high-end leather modern recliners and a sturdy round pedestal table, none of which would be attached to the floor. I'd put them on their sides and strap them down when traveling. Of course I found the perfect recliners.... for $1700 each (retch, gag, ptoooie)!
And then I might want to sell this one and get the 27 footer with twins.
Must go now. Got to buy some lotto tickets!
Seriously, if your unit is stripped down, consider a nice card table, four comfortable folding chairs and a couple of inflatable beds. Use whatever configuration suits a given trip and your fellow travelers!
Happy Trails! Paula
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08-20-2010, 06:00 PM
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4 Rivet Member
1985 34' Limited
1960 24' Tradewind
Summerville
, South Carolina
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 382
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Foiled Again
The end dinette is more comfortable than the side dinette. It has more leg room. Side dinettes are normally placed over wheel wells, which means the outside seats are comfortable for those under 4 feet tall. In newer units the widebody also comes into play in lengths of 25 feet or more; again being more generous size.
I have the 25 FB SE, and wrestle the dinette up and down as the fancy hits - it isn't hard, but one does risk snapping a fingernail, crushing said finger or skinning one's shin against the edge of the table.
I do a lot of work on my computer and sew, and I find the dinette table a tad too high to be comfortable for either. I played with lowering the dinette by using a "side lift" hydraulic arm, but it wasn't sturdy enough to sew with a serger, so I took it out.
I saw a rare-ish 31' model Colonial was selling one time which stongly appealed to me. The table was attached to a groove along the side wall and there were four folding chairs. It could be moved back and forth several feet or taken down completely. I like that flexibility.
I've been playing with the idea of replacing the dinette with two high-end leather modern recliners and a sturdy round pedestal table, none of which would be attached to the floor. I'd put them on their sides and strap them down when traveling. Of course I found the perfect recliners.... for $1700 each (retch, gag, ptoooie)!
And then I might want to sell this one and get the 27 footer with twins.
Must go now. Got to buy some lotto tickets!
Seriously, if your unit is stripped down, consider a nice card table, four comfortable folding chairs and a couple of inflatable beds. Use whatever configuration suits a given trip and your fellow travelers!
Happy Trails! Paula
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Paula,
I have been toying around with about the same idea. What do you think of these from RVSurplus? Lot less than $1700 each. RV Surplus
Bill
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08-20-2010, 08:49 PM
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Rivet Master
2012 25' FB Eddie Bauer
Vintage Kin Owner
Virginia Beach
, Virginia
Join Date: Sep 2004
Posts: 7,801
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cantrell
Paula,
I have been toying around with about the same idea. What do you think of these from RVSurplus? Lot less than $1700 each. RV Surplus
Bill
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Yes, I saw several similar to that one.
Here's what I was considering (not in lime green however)
Kiri Recliner Chair, Lafer Recliners, Lafer Recliners, New York City
IMHO, a separate ottoman makes a big footprint. You could do ONE but not two in the place of the dinette. I've actually sat on one of the Kiri's and the flip out foot rest is quite comfortable. To have two recliners, even without ottomans, would require you to settle for a very small table. Perhaps a gateleg or a 20 inch round, or a big TV tray table. I might have to shorten the side couch a few inches too... though that would be limited by the position of the furnace.
Of course you have a 34 and I have a 25.... makes a big difference
Paula
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