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Old 02-03-2005, 08:54 AM   #1
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Foam Insulation? Aluminum? Loose Curtain Rails? Revamp Goucho?

Well, we have FINALLY begun rehabing out little 22 minuet! I have MANY
questions that I can't seem to find answers to on the forums so far.

1) Mark wants to remover the fiberglass insulation and replace it
with foam. Thinks it will reinforce the frame, lighter wieght and just
better for insulation etc. Kind of foam is in question. right out of
the can? or industrial? any thoughts?

2) Then we will replace the interior skins with aluminum. Alclad 2024
sound like the best because of reinforcing the frame but the foam
should do that for us. 3003 is cheaper but I understand from you guys that
it is 1/3 softer in strength. Does that mean it will scratch/gouge
easier one way or the other ? as that seems to be my main concern? would
going from a .032 to a .040 to the trick? Is the difference to slight
to worry about?

3) I got all the screws out and "furniture" and have begun the rivets.
Love the rivet tool even I (Miss. break a bit per rivet) can use this
thing. YEAH!

4) We have a great contact at airstream her name is Tina in the parts
department. but would like to see if that salvage yard in Missouri would
have the parts we want and send them or hold them till we get there.
My sister lives in St louis so we could drive out and stay with her.
BUT is the salvage stuff cheap enough to be worth the time an hassel. I
think tincanluv has been there. Any thoughts?

5) Mark wants to keep the frames of the couch and goucho and revamp
them somehow. Question is Why are the booth seats pulled away from the
exterior walls? condensation? but I haven't seen it in our camper.
Could we inset curtians into vistaview windows (doing away with the
curtain rails) and butt the back of the goucho seat right up to the wall.
even attach the cushions directly to the wall around the curved corner
section? Maybe just use the seat part of the goucho and attach all back
cusions directly to wall? Kinda like that one that was used by a radio
station remember????

THANKS a bunch. We have lots of parts (22 ft minuet argosy kitchen,
and wall cabinets minus the doors (they fell apart))and would be happy to
send them if you pay for shipping. There was a guy on Ebay with a old
bunk for $400. I sent him an email telling him it was too expensive
for me but if he had to relist it for some reason, I'd be interested to
see a lower price. His response was "in the words of Wally Byam "talk
is cheap, airstreams aren't!". Well OUR Parts are FREE! I guess that
makes my talk expensive???

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Old 02-03-2005, 09:32 AM   #2
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Foam in place of fiberglass batting

All I know about this is what I read on the web. What I read is mostly in the otr bus conversion forums and personal websites. Foam between the skins is very popular for strength and insulating value. I found the sites by googling and following links. There is quite a parallel universe out there.

However the foam they are using is NOT a case of spray cans from Lowes. The stuff they use/reccomend is professionally applied isocyanurate and the material and tool costs to use it are significant. This material is used in housing as well, and one idea was to arrange with the applicator to drive the RV to a scheduled jobsite so they could move from the big job in the house to the little job in the street at lower cost.

Once you hvae researched the technology on the web, I think some calls to foam applicators in your area might be the best course.

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Old 02-03-2005, 09:35 AM   #3
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Oh, and about those bunks on e-bay....

they finally went for $500. Breathtaking. I can't say I have seen a complete, usable coach go for that, but I can say I've seen the whole thing sell for not much more.
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Old 02-03-2005, 01:36 PM   #4
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There is a foam that is rated "Structural" and its a industrial application. A lot of new automobiles have it in rockers and roof rial as both a strengthener and a noise insulation.

Great stuff would not be cost effective. I would contact a insulation specialist and find a company that has the equipment to spray it in. It would be far cheaper then you trying to spray in great stuff. They could probably do the whole coach in 30 minutes if you take care of the clean up.
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Check this stuff out. I hope this link is helpfull
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