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09-22-2009, 08:33 PM
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2 Rivet Member
1965 20' Globetrotter
Fairfield
, Connecticut
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Floorplan feedback
I've about finished with the interior gut of my 65 Globetrotter and now trying to layout new interior. My goal is to accomodate two adults for weekend and short trips,with minimal set up required for sleep and dining.
I dont think I will reinstall the furnace so I'm considering extending street side bench to allow an l twin set up and stools at table opposite galley.
This is my first trailer and I would appreciate any suggestions from
experienced owners. Thanks , Jim
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09-22-2009, 08:36 PM
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Hello JLGT5107,
Great drawings.. very professional.
Looks like you have designed a very usable space for two people to travel comfortably. Look forward to seeing the final pictures.
Vinnie
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09-22-2009, 08:52 PM
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2002 25' Safari
Dewey
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It is a nice looking layout. You mention the furnace, but what about a refrigerator? The original was up forward where there was enough wall to mount the vent to the roof. If you are moving it to the rear will you be able to install the vent and a new roof fixture. Most of the rear of the GT has windows.
My other concern would be the balance of the railer. GT's were a little light on the hitch weight (under 10%). You need to keep at least the same amount if not more on the hitch to help prevent sway. Moving the refrigerator to the rear would reduce the current hitch weight. Towing with a full water tank would help.
The layout you drew looks very comfortable and does make very good use of the existing space. My concerns are just to point out things you may want to consider in your plan.
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09-23-2009, 07:37 AM
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1956 22' Flying Cloud
Dallas
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Very nice drawings. Are you willing to explain how (and with what software) you prepared th drawings?
Thanks, Hank
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09-23-2009, 07:40 AM
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2 Rivet Member
1965 20' Globetrotter
Fairfield
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Thanks for the comments. Unfortunately the final photos will likely be in the very distant future, following floor removal,skin removal, wiring...............
The lay out is basically the same with slightly different bunk location. My fridge will stay in its original location with venting through roof. I don't see much change to tounge wt. this way. Maybe I should test it. I'm planning to mock up interior for spousal approval. jim
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09-23-2009, 07:44 AM
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2 Rivet Member
1965 20' Globetrotter
Fairfield
, Connecticut
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Hank, The drawings are done with Autocad. They are to scale although I need to refine the dimensions a bit for accuracy. The nice thing is that i will be able to print full size templates for curves etc.
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09-23-2009, 09:10 AM
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1970 23' Safari
2005 30' Classic
1986 31' Sovereign
Lorain
, Ohio
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Hi Jim,
I like the work you have done so far!
Here are my initial thoughts, please understand I don't have years of experience, so keep that in mind!
- Your sleeping arrangements are good for sleeping. enough said....
- It is amazing how much crap I end up taking even on short trips. Perhaps you need to consider where you may be able to sneek in some additional storage. Bedding, muddy boots, coats, and dirty laundry need a place to live.
Maybe consider under your dining table? Since you are gutting, I've seen some very creative "in the floor" storage.
- Gonna have a microwave or TV?
- Looks like you intend on fixed stools. I like the concept, but might be a problem walking into them trying to go to the bathroom. I could go either way! The diner look would be cool though....
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09-23-2009, 09:37 AM
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4 Rivet Member
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1960 24' Tradewind
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Very Cool. Nicely illustrated.
A suggestion to consider: move the streetside bunk towards the rear and put the table between the two bunks. This would allow you to have seating for four if ever needed (2 on stools, 1 on end of each bunk). Also allows you to hide wheelwell under the bed and not have it under the table.
Just an idea.
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09-23-2009, 11:24 AM
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Rivet Master
1956 22' Safari
2015 27' Flying Cloud
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My only comments would have to do with the water tank location in relation to the kitchen. Seems if you put it under the streetside bed instead of the front you would cut-out 6+ feet of water lines and it would better balance the weight side-to-side with all the appliances on the curbside. Water tank on the streetside under the gaucho over the axle is how our '64 GT is set-up. It lightens up the tongue and balances the galley.
Also, it's not clear where you plan on locating the water heater - or do you not plan on having one? FWIW, ours is on the streetside behind the water tank under the closet - between the fresh water tank and the bath/kitchen.
Also as already mentioned, the wheel well under the dining area - could be an issue.
Shari
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09-23-2009, 11:28 AM
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2 Rivet Member
1965 20' Globetrotter
Fairfield
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Good points. I am trying to get the basic concept down and then refine to meet storage needs. Not shown in sketch is an ottoman type box in front of bunks to serve as storage,footrest, dining area or work//game table maybe as large as 30x30. Under the table I am thinking I would create a lipped ledge over wheelwell for open storage that will also leave knee space. The stools will have to push in, maybe a track system.I have a camping checklist for my motorcycle trips. I wonder if anyone here has listed all that loose gear you need in the airstream. Its probably a good thing to have in the design stage. I'll be towing with a pick-up which will take care of a lot of bulky storage.
Bill, Ill try out your sugg. With autocad you can copy and paste in no time
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09-23-2009, 11:41 AM
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2 Rivet Member
1965 20' Globetrotter
Fairfield
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Join Date: Jul 2009
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Shari, Im interested in your comments as I wonder if the set up you describe is original. Previously someone commented on the tounge wt. issue. I should include a dwg of existing conditions. I assumed that all my utilities were in original locations. Water tank: below front window with fill tube on front of trailer.Furnace: opposite entry door. Fridge: next to curbside bulkhead. Water heater: bottom of curbside closet. I am hoping that in keepig fairly close to this distribution I will be close to orig. as far as balance goes.
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09-23-2009, 12:07 PM
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Rivet Master
1956 22' Safari
2015 27' Flying Cloud
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Yes, ours is 100% original, but it's a 1964 model. The only thing we did beyond finishes is change the gaucho up front to a dinette. Everything else has been cosmetic softgoods and a panel replacement. You can see it on our website: index Airstream 1964 Globetrotter - Maxwell
Shari
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09-23-2009, 12:21 PM
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2 Rivet Member
1965 20' Globetrotter
Fairfield
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Posts: 97
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Shari, Ive been to your site several times. It is very inspirational.
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12-30-2009, 08:29 PM
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New Member
1964 19' Globetrotter
los angeles
, California
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these are the best floor plans and elevations I have seen online yet. do you know the interior dimensions of the globe trotter? im buying a 64 and trying to find out the dimensions inside to make my plans for renovation. all i need is the length and width of the interiors, not including the curves, but if you know that radius that would be awesome. thanks you!
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01-02-2010, 04:12 PM
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2 Rivet Member
1965 20' Globetrotter
Fairfield
, Connecticut
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Posts: 97
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Gt measurements
Hi peter, hope these will help, jim
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01-02-2010, 07:50 PM
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2 Rivet Member
1965 20' Globetrotter
Fairfield
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Measurements
Peter, hope these are helpful
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