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Old 01-29-2006, 09:27 PM   #15
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Not sure I'd use Windex anything on any part of the alum skins, but if it works for you......
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Old 01-29-2006, 10:00 PM   #16
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hi silvertwinkie, dreamstreamr and others.

this isn't the basic ammonia based windex, but a product from the household cleaning line.......

and at least there is a product msds sheet so you can be informed about what is being inhaled or absorbed via skin. i have used it for the corian, sink, fixtures and so on.....but only with the windows open.....

http://householdproducts.nlm.nih.gov...ds&id=19001182

like most products in this category, it's mostly water and isopropyl alcohol....the secret ingredient is ethylene gylcol....which isn't good for the brain or some other vital organs.....
it's probably this one........

http://www.atsdr.cdc.gov/tfacts118.html

but again at least one can read about it.

find me a walbernize ingredient list.......someone, anyone, buehler.......buehler.....

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Old 01-29-2006, 10:50 PM   #17
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Haven't personally tried it ...

but how about 10pts water to 1 pt vinegar - I use this at home to clean glass, counters, wood floors, etc. I used it on stainless steel and it shines it up nicely.
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Old 01-29-2006, 11:42 PM   #18
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Not sure on the water an vin thing, but if you're cleaning the interior alum skin, warm water should work fine.

In reality, there are few things in life that can't make you sick 2Air. I mean we drive behind cars that belch out exhaust as our cars suck it in and we breathe it, we use cell phones with radio waves next to our head, eat foods that we have no real idea where they came from, what they've been fed, that are put through a type or radiation to kill bacteria, drink colas and worse yet diet colas with artificial everything, drink water that we hope is not contaminated in any way and camp in RVs and drive vehicles that contain materials known to the State of California to cause Cancer. The ozone has deteriorated and skin cancer is everywhere and the sunscreens today that we put on that we think are safe, they'll say are not safe and actually may cause cancer....who knows.....everyday we see this is good for you, then a month later, nope, that can kill ya too. Big news flash....we die a very little bit every single day as we ride the wave to the big dirt nap.

In my book, though I wouldn't use Windex anything on my alum skins, it's toxicity is the least of my worries particularly living in an urban setting where there are ozone action days every other day during the summer.

Nobody gets off this rock alive 2Air, might as well be clean while we're here and NOT read government studies and reports, when in fact a fair number of things that make us sick are allowed by the government and/or not stopped or regulated until in some cases it's too late.
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Old 01-30-2006, 12:24 AM   #19
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hi twinks and 3ms75argosy

the 10/1 makes a .5 percent acetic acid solution and is very safe for people. i would ad 1-5 drops of dove or joy to an 16oz bottle....just drops. with will cut grease/oil soluable stuff while the water/vin get the water soluable stuff.
good for general cleaning (counters,floor, doors fridge, bath and so on.....

for a dirty enamel sink....first sprinkle baking soda, then spray, what the foam rise, then scour with non abrasive pad...

for glass add isopropyl to the water/vin solution amount about equal to the vinegar measure. this is a great window/glass/mirror cleaning spray that will leave no residue.

i agree twink the world is can be toxic in may ways....but controlling just a few isn't hard. when someone how just cleaned the oven getts a headache or a rash....know why can safe her from unneccesary treatment with more drugs.......when some one removing over spray with an automotive product gets confused; wobbly and blurred vision......knowing they need fresh air and better ventiationl....isn't hard if you have a clue to the products.

i haven't had a cell phone for 3 years now. and if i talk on one i filter it through a double cheeseburger.....to cancel each other out.....but i am closely related to howard hughes too

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Old 01-30-2006, 12:52 AM   #20
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Gotta admit, that one cracked a smile.

We all gotta do what we can....just make sure that dbl cheeseburger is flame broiled for best results.
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Unhappy chemicals, chemicals, everywhere

2Air', I agree with what's left of my lungs and other internals -- we don't need additional exposure to chemicals. Between what leaches from manufactured goods in the office, home, tow vee and trailer, then people want the air to smell natural so we're exposed to "fresh scent" air fresheners and sprays, and then I bring up the Windex surface spray -- You and Paula are right, keep it simple and just use basic organic solvents like water and olive oil. We're gonna find out a bit late in the game just how badly all these chems add up. For now we only wonder about all the sensitivities because our bodies are more sensitive than instrumentation at detecting presence of chems. Yuck. So, 2Air', thanks for the health admonition. I plan to heed it. Hmm, is the microfiber cloth really safe? Yeah, for now. (caution: only use as directed by mfr)
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Old 02-01-2006, 09:30 PM   #22
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Hi Folks,

I have to admit that a discussion about wax is like an oil thread or one on religion. That said, I have tried Walbernize and didn't really like the product. I ended up using a product that I have had wonderful results with for over 5 years on all of my vehicles and motorcycles. That product is called REJEX. It is available on-line from its' manufacturer : corrosionx.com. It is a polymer based product that wipes on and really just wipes off....no buffing.

I have used this on my recently departed 40' MoHo with brilliant results. The bugs either hose off or need nothing more than a light wipe to remove. The product has a higher refractive index than wax so it produces more shine, and when properly applied according to the directions, lasts about 6 months.

Needless to say that I love this stuff and have literally covered the inside and outside of my A/S with it. You need sunglasses at night to enter as it's so bright inside now ! And soooo smoooooth tooooooo.
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hi lewster and others

there is an error in my post #16....should be ethylene glycol esters.....cannot edit it now.........

you are correct threads on wax, oil, wbcci, hitches and a lot of the topics here can be near religous....

what was different to me about this thread......using the products inside the trailer....where safety might be a bit bigger issue than shine/gloss.

the rejex you favor is fine stuff. it is basically a silicone polymer in a petrol base......like many other products along this line.....but it also has water in the base....thats why the long curing time.....

i like the syn products a lot and use them my self....the rejex label info suggests 'those oily silicones' are bad..... and it's true, paint shops don't want silicone/siloxane things in the shop because they keep fresh paint from sticking! not good. but as cured paint protection, tire, plastic trim and so on they are fine.....the oil base products aren't as nice as the water, alcohol, petrol base products....and the oil bases are sticky....

but rejex is a silicone/siloxane product emulsed in a petrol/water base.

here is the msds.....

http://www.corrosionx.com/msds/rejex.pdf

ALL car waxs and sealants evaporate over time, even after dried out.

i really don't think you want this inside a closed trailer/living space....especially as much wall space as the safaris/ccds have....if it last 6 months inside.......you are breathing it for 6 months inside......

breath what you like.......... just know what's in the air you breath....

if i had a bottle of rejex i'd surely try it on the outside of my airstream and my truck too.


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2air,

Thanks for the chemical analysis of the product. I haven't heard language like that since I was in engineering school......quite refreshing! Anway, I haven't read the MSDS since I started using the product years ago. I'll re-study it now that it has a little more relevance to my health.

Thanks for your concern! Karma to you !!!!!!!
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Hi All,

Trying to do a restorative cleaning on a '68 Overlander. I think it looks like some oxidation has occurred especially in the window areas. Ideas for how to clean, and make shiny?
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Trying to do a restorative cleaning on a '68 Overlander. I think it looks like some oxidation has occurred especially in the window areas. Ideas for how to clean, and make shiny?
I hope you realize that this thread is 9 years old, and that most of the original posters (myself excluded) are no longer participating on the Forums.
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