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Old 09-18-2015, 06:32 PM   #1
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Ceiling Skin Seam Removal / Snake in an Airstream - 76' Sovereign

Hello all,

I'm in the process of removing the interior skins.

I cannot figure out how to release the upper interior skins. They are under a plastic seam that has no clear way of removal.

Thoughts?

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I knew that I should expect to find at least one snake during the gut process but I did not expect it to be above my head. Looks like a Black Snake made its home inside the air air-conditioner. My hope is that it moved on after it shed its skin...
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Old 09-18-2015, 08:18 PM   #2
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The trim strips are riveted underneath the center panel, so you can't see/access the rivets. What you need to do is remove the lights, ac housing, and any and all snakes...then drill out the rivets that secure the center panel to the roof ribs. Then it will be just held in place by the trim strips...with the help of multiple hands, the center panel can bend/flex downward, and the edges will pop out from the trim strips.
Then you'll be able to drill out the rivets securing the trim.
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Old 09-19-2015, 12:05 AM   #3
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What chuck said. First you have to remove all the stuff mentioned in the panel between the strips. Then in as many places as possible, this is where several people helps, you want to pull down slowly at the center of the panel along its length, thus will cause the arch of the panel to invert into a u, after which you can pull the panel down out of the strips. The main thing holding it there is the arch of the metal. Try to get it all to invert at once otherwise you can cause wrinkles in the center panel and bend the strips.
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Old 09-19-2015, 09:30 AM   #4
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It sounds like the center sheet was put into place prior to one of the end caps during construction? It seems unlikely that they would need to bend it tip place it in the factory but I could be wrong.

I am working on my own so the suggested techniques might be a little tough.

I wonder if I could slide the center run out the back window rather than pull in down.

Thoughts?
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Old 09-19-2015, 10:23 AM   #5
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I slid mine in and out. Worked great.
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Old 09-19-2015, 10:31 AM   #6
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I slid mine in and out. Worked great.

Did you go out the back our front window?
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Thanks at this point myself on 76 soveriegn

Thanks for posting this, I am at this point myself on our 76 sovereign and wondering how to get out the center panel for ceiling and upper side panels that are adjacent. So far no snakes, but mice had stored a lot of dog food in the insulation which came showering down when the upper side panel rivets were removed.
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Old 09-19-2015, 09:22 PM   #8
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Did you go out the back our front window?
If it's like the '74, as it's slid out of the channels it's flexible enough to roll or at least to slide back along the floor.

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Hello all,

I'm in the process of removing the interior skins.

I cannot figure out how to release the upper interior skins. They are under a plastic seam that has no clear way of removal.

Thoughts?

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I knew that I should expect to find at least one snake during the gut process but I did not expect it to be above my head. Looks like a Black Snake made its home inside the air air-conditioner. My hope is that it moved on after it shed its skin...
That was my biggest fear when I started dismantling my Caravel. I never did find an SN but found lots of other disgusting filth.
How did it get on the roof!? That is sooooo
creepy.
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That could be a new movie idea, maybe a sequel to "Snakes on a Plane".
Has a good ring to it-
"Snakes in an Airstream"-
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That could be a new movie idea, maybe a sequel to "Snakes on a Plane".
Has a good ring to it-
"Snakes in an Airstream"-
Maybe the NASA airstream and they sneak into space and come back to earth super mutated. It could be snakenado.
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So...

You should really have a friend help you pull the ceiling panel if possible. Unfortunately no friends were free this afternoon so I got a nice tare in the metal sheet.

Any thoughts on the Kind of aluminum sheet needed as a replacement?
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Some 5052-h32 will be more than sufficient plus it's inexpensive. 2 options 1. you can try to find some that's the same length, difficult to do. 2. Cut 2-3 sheets so there's a slight overlap someplace near a rib.
If you can find a sheet metal shop that sells 4x10 or 4x12 sheets they ought to be able to sheer the width you'll need. My recommendation would be to sheer it wider and rivet it up, getting rid of those tracks that the sheet goes into. Use the old sheet and lay it on new sheets as a template for holes for vents etc. A couple shorter pieces will make it easier to get down a section if you need to in the future. If you put them up well you won't even really notice the seams.
I cut all new sheets in my trailer, with the seams tight you don't even notice them. Couldn't find sheets long enough for the 12'6" so had to strategically place seams. You wouldn't know they're not supposed to be there unless you were a SUPER airstream nut and happened to notice them. Then if you said something you'd be laying outside my as door on your back side, kidding of course.
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