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Old 10-05-2009, 09:43 PM   #1
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Benjamin Moore Fresh Start Primer?

Has anyone used this primer/sealer before painting. We are ready to prime over our vinyl coated interior aluminum skin and only want to do this once. Any thoughts? I know there are alot of products out there. Thanks!

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Old 10-05-2009, 10:02 PM   #2
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Hi Bob, Use Sherwin Williams bonding primer. We sanded with 120 grit sand paper and painted with a latex paint, it has held up great.

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Old 10-05-2009, 10:16 PM   #3
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Bob,

We used Fresh Start (2 coats) and Benjamin Moore latex finishes, also 2 coats - maybe three after a final touch up - throughout the coach, except for the bath, which was Por15 WhiteCoat.



You can see the results in post #600 here:

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Old 10-05-2009, 10:30 PM   #4
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Has anyone used this primer/sealer before painting. We are ready to prime over our vinyl coated interior aluminum skin and only want to do this once. Any thoughts? I know there are alot of products out there. Thanks!

Bob
Bob.

The real key to painting the vinyl-clad metal, is sand, sand and more sanding.

Scuffing will lead to early paint failure.

Sanding with 120 grit, is an absolute "MUST".

The entire surface of the vinyl-clad, must be severely cut into, for proper primer adhesion.

The let the primer out gas for a few days, before you paint the color coat.

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Andy...after sanding would you wipe down with mineral spirits? Would you suggest an oil base primer or latex...does it matter? Thanks!

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Andy...after sanding would you wipe down with mineral spirits? Would you suggest an oil base primer or latex...does it matter? Thanks!

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Oil base, followed by whatever you wish, as long as it's a very good grade of paint.

The interior paint of an Airstream, gets far more abuse that any home could give it, from extreme temperature changes to vibration.

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Bob,


Itís late here and I gave you a bunch of badly remembered misinformation.

I actually cleaned the vinyl walls with KRUD KILLER and TSP, sanded very well and primed with KILZ. Then I painted with Benjamin Moore OIL based flat paint.

The whole process is described here in post 181:

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I've been going through some pretty trying times with my paining fiasco - and I did a lot of research (on this forum) before embarking. I am not saying you can't or shouldn't paint your trailer but offer this link for you to read just to see what I (and Jim & Susan) encountered and how we're trying to rectify it....

http://www.airforums.com/forums/f39/...cky-55249.html

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The Ben Moore people told me NOT to use oil based paint because it's too brittle to handle the vibration, etc. of the trailer. They told me to use a product called Stix because as a primer, it'll stick to just about anything. Then, to use one of their latex paints. I've used BM for many years and have always been very satisfied with the expertise and advice from the guys at the paint store. They have never steered me wrong.
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Talked to the BM rep this morning and he recommended oil base to combat the stickiness of the vinyl covering. I tried a little in an inconspicuous space...not happy with the brush marks...will try roller tomorrow. He did say to use good quality latex over the oil based primer. It is the equivalent of Zinser (sp ?). Will let you know how it goes. I used TSP, sanded, and then TSP again. Hope this works.

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