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07-12-2014, 07:42 PM
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3 Rivet Member
2014 23' Flying Cloud
2015 28' Flying Cloud
Kalamazoo
, Michigan
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 102
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Beds
I have FC 23D. I find the cushions don't fit as indicated on the dinette and lounge when converted to beds. Anyone else have trouble making these things comfortable? Cushions seem to always slide off in middle of night.
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07-12-2014, 08:34 PM
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Rivet Master
2018 33' Classic
2015 30' FB FC Bunk
2012 30' Flying Cloud
Grand Rabbits
, Michigan
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 612
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Good question... I am interested in this as well. Our dinette doesn't drop flush with the wood framework of the surrounding bench, and the bed is not even.
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07-13-2014, 07:42 AM
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3 Rivet Member
2014 23' Flying Cloud
2015 28' Flying Cloud
Kalamazoo
, Michigan
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 102
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Table is not intended to be flush. Small rubber stops on bottom of table keep it from shifting from side to side.
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08-27-2014, 02:40 PM
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Rivet Master
2009 25' FB Classic
Scottsdale
, Arizona
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 850
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Has any one replaced the twin mattress (34 X 78 with curved edge? If so where did you get them and which model number?
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04-14-2015, 08:30 AM
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2 Rivet Member
1953 21' Flying Cloud
Atlanta
, Georgia
Join Date: Oct 2013
Posts: 51
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We plan on buying a memory foam mattress off amazon and cutting to fit. Way cheaper than a custom spring mattress. And way more comfortable.
We've been sleeping on this one for 6 months and it's a dream come true.
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Originally Posted by Julie-Bob
Has any one replaced the twin mattress (34 X 78 with curved edge? If so where did you get them and which model number?
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04-14-2015, 09:53 AM
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2 Rivet Member
1985 31' Sovereign
Lovettsville
, Virginia
Join Date: Feb 2015
Posts: 53
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Why didn't I think of that?
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Originally Posted by handrew
We plan on buying a memory foam mattress off amazon and cutting to fit. Way cheaper than a custom spring mattress. And way more comfortable.
We've been sleeping on this one for 6 months and it's a dream come true.
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I have considered replacing the matresses and this idea seems like the best one. Thanks!
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04-14-2015, 10:49 AM
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4 Rivet Member
1987 25' Sovereign
Oregon
, Ohio
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 491
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To all of you that are considering cutting a memory foam to fit. We did just that 4 years ago for our rear twins with 3 corner beds and we have had 4 years of great sleep. I found the best prices online at the Wal-Mart site. It is an eight inch thick King. Cost about $150 plus having them covered.
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04-14-2015, 11:29 AM
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The Sign Lady
1969 23' Safari
1974 Argosy 22
1964 24' Tradewind
Victoria
, British Columbia
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 677
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To keep you cushions from slipping and sliding put yoga mats or textured vinyl shelf liner under the cushions. no more slippage :-)
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04-19-2015, 04:35 PM
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2 Rivet Member
1985 31' Sovereign
Lovettsville
, Virginia
Join Date: Feb 2015
Posts: 53
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Quote:
Originally Posted by msmcv51
To all of you that are considering cutting a memory foam to fit. We did just that 4 years ago for our rear twins with 3 corner beds and we have had 4 years of great sleep. I found the best prices online at the Wal-Mart site. It is an eight inch thick King. Cost about $150 plus having them covered.
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Thank you! That's a fantastic recommendation.
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04-19-2015, 04:45 PM
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Rivet Master
1986 31' Sovereign
Miami
, Florida
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 3,137
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Your basic electric knife will trim down a memory foam mattress nicely but it will be pretty much toast by the time you finish. Bed, bath and beyond will sell you one for about twenty bucks. Money well spent.
Mike
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04-19-2015, 06:55 PM
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2 Rivet Member
1953 21' Flying Cloud
Atlanta
, Georgia
Join Date: Oct 2013
Posts: 51
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Quote:
Originally Posted by n2916s
Your basic electric knife will trim down a memory foam mattress nicely but it will be pretty much toast by the time you finish. Bed, bath and beyond will sell you one for about twenty bucks. Money well spent.
Mike
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Great advice! Will definitely be picking one up!
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05-08-2015, 12:52 AM
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CrystalLady
2005 25' Safari
Los Angeles
, California
Join Date: Apr 2015
Posts: 5
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IKEA mattress for my Bambi bed replacement
We need to replace the back mattress on our '04 Bambi. My first thought was a simple memory foam mattress, but I read on 'Forum' that someone used an IKEA mattress with the memory foam...but I'm not finding the post, argh.
If someone knows about using the Ikea mattress please let me know which one/type you purchased. Thanks.
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06-22-2015, 10:16 AM
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2 Rivet Member
1972 27' Overlander
Weatherford
, 76086
Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 51
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Did you have your mattress covered after you cut it? Thanks
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06-22-2015, 11:35 AM
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3 Rivet Member
1993 34' Excella
, Maryland
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 231
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I just cut down an 8" memory foam mattress that I purchased off of Amazon for my wife's side. She said it was great. We already had 2" memory foam toppers so I cut that to shape also and bonded it to the foam of the mattress using 3M Super 77 spray adhesive. We just used a regular mattress cover on top once we were done.
-Alden
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2005 Dodge Ram 3500 Diesel
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06-22-2015, 02:29 PM
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4 Rivet Member
1977 27' Overlander
1996 34' Excella
Florida Panhandle
, Florida
Join Date: Jun 2014
Posts: 396
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Never tested the memory foam mattresses myself. I like the ease of cutting to fit but wondering if those of you who have them would share how well they told up to you sitting on the edge. We are thinking about using a mattress instead of couch or gaucho so that means we'd be eating on them on rainy days with a folding table. Wondering if they give enough support along the edge for that activity. Any information is appreciated.
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Florida Panhandle
1977 Overlander / 27' ~ The Attitude Adjuster
1997 Airstream Excella / 34' ~ The Sane Asylum
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06-22-2015, 03:53 PM
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Rivet Puller
2003 28' Safari S/O
Atlanta Burbs
, Georgia
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 2,006
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How to make an informed foam choice for a mattress or seating cushions is much more complex than most people imagine. Generally, all you will get here is what choice others made, liked or didn't like, and you need much more than that to chose wisely for your personal set of 'facts.' Otherwise, your satisfaction truly becomes a crap shoot. Likewise, many of the products offered online (by Amazon or Ebay) lack sufficient specification information in their supporting sales write-up to add clarity to the decision either. I really suggest visiting a store first to try out various foams, get a little education using your body for feedback, and then choose where to make the purchase.
What really matters are your weight, position (sitting/lying), expected lifespan (2-3 years vs much longer), environment temperature (controlled vs extremes), cover (with or without batting, # of cloth layers), foam thickness, and a few other data points to start. In addition, you may want to be concerned with which chemicals are used for fabrication, especially if you have allergies. Foams vary widely from rubber, latex, urethanes, bio-foams (no PBDEs or CFCs), viscoelastic, and is it closed or open cell. Foams can also be treated with or come without fire retardants.
I think there are three performance factors that are of primary concern in evaluating the suitability of foam for any specific application. The first factor is the foam rating: is it High Resilient (HR) or Standard (non-HR) which affects longevity (3-5 years versus 7-9). The next factor is the Density rating of the foam: between 1.8 and 3.5 which identifies pounds of chemical in each cubic foot of foam. The third major factor, the Indentation Load Deflection (ILD) rating, is of equal importance as the foam's density rating and is measured in pounds of pressure necessary to compress the foam 25% of it's height. The suitable combination of these factors is also complicated by the foam thickness chosen to achieve the desired "feel."
So, when judging if a foam mattress/cushion is good for you, you need to know which specifications you want and whether the one being sold is a match. Likewise, if you want it to be both a mattress and a seating cushion, then you need to figure out which compromise of features you can live with over the expected ownership period. Note: The whole process can get even more confusing when you start to mix and match various layers of different thicknesses and type.
Here is a chart for interpreting specifications for single layer seating use which may make the above more easily understood:
ILD Density Feel; Uses
11 1.8 Extra Soft; Soft back cushion
18 2.4 Comfort Soft; Firm back cushions
26 2.7 Soft; Extra firm back or soft seating cushions
27 2.8 Medium Soft; Medium soft seating
31 2.7 Medium+; Medium seating
33 1.9 Medium Firm; Medium firm seating
33 3.1 Medium Firm+; High quality couch seating
41 2.8 Firm; Firm (ex: 2" dining chairs)
50 3.2 Extra Firm; Extra firm seating (ex: pews)
61 3.0 Extra Firm;
If I have learned anything over the years doing upholstery work it is, "The cheaper the material, the shorter its lifespan." That applies equally to foam and fabric. And, the experience is very different if you are 130 lbs versus 260 lbs.
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06-22-2015, 04:06 PM
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4 Rivet Member
1977 27' Overlander
1996 34' Excella
Florida Panhandle
, Florida
Join Date: Jun 2014
Posts: 396
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Very informative!
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Florida Panhandle
1977 Overlander / 27' ~ The Attitude Adjuster
1997 Airstream Excella / 34' ~ The Sane Asylum
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06-22-2015, 04:20 PM
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Rivet Puller
2003 28' Safari S/O
Atlanta Burbs
, Georgia
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 2,006
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Paddledipper - FYI, it is possible to do both but requires the 'correct' choice.
My convertible dinette - bottom cushions are 4" HD 35/2.8 bottom cushions wrapped with 1/2" poly batting encased in 100,000 rub upholstery fabric and the backs are 4" HD 18/2.0 with 1/2" poly batting. The original factory foam was probably 18/1.8-2.0 foam for all pieces before time degraded everything. Oh, I'm the 180 lb group.
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06-22-2015, 10:14 PM
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CrystalLady
2005 25' Safari
Los Angeles
, California
Join Date: Apr 2015
Posts: 5
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To oilman, the 8" hard core mattress with memory foam topper (Walmart online) came with 2 covers. I sewed the mattress covers to fit the new shape after cutting the bed to fit the AS Bambi curves.
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06-22-2015, 11:02 PM
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Rivet Master
2013 28' Flying Cloud
Central
, Canada
Join Date: Mar 2014
Posts: 1,082
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Interesting thread......
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